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Comment by djvortix

Dropped by Yogg-Saron (10 man). Its dps is just about equal to Stormedge (also found in 10 man Ulduar (Hodir) ).

Comment by 184519

With the current infomation of obtainable loot from Ulduar 10 man and 25man, this weapons is a very strong candidate for BIS DK Tanking 2her.
Of course, however, we apparently only know about 40% of the loot table so there is a high probabilty a better weapon can be obtainable in 25 man atleast.

Hit is a nice stat to have on a weapon. With Naxx tanking gear you don't get that much hit. Armour pen not that useful but it's nice. Lower amount of strength. It has less strength that other leaked 2hers, but the loss in parry rating is infirior to the gain in stamina.
Replacing the Innevitable defeate for this weapon would mean you lose a large amount of agility. But in my opinnion the gain in stamina and damage stats of the weapon makes up for it, given you'd need to generate more threat to accomidate the increase in damage being delt by your guild through Ulduar gearing.

https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/item=45516 can rival this weapon depending on how you'd socket. But the crit rating favours it as a dps weapon more. Abaddon theoretically would be easier to obtain (RNGs ftw).

https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/item=45165 is also a nice alternative. You lose stamina, but if you're an orc, that weapon would drown you in expertise which would be epic.

Comment by 356539

Abaddon has at least two meanings.
1. The destroyer, or angel of the bottomless pit; -- the same as Apollyon and Asmodeus.
2. Hell; the bottomless pit.

And could also be a possible reference to Abaddon the Despoiler of Worlds in the Warhammer 40,000
universe, in which he is considered the most powerful Chaos Lord currently in the 40k universe since the Horus Hesery.

Comment by coolguyry

Here's what this sword is a reference to: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abbadon. Enjoy.

Comment by 307977

Warhammer 40K reference possibly? Abaddon the Despoiler? (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abaddon_the_Despoiler#Abaddon_the_Despoiler)The Link to the Wiki Page.

Comment by 321104

Abaddon is used in lots of things. It's not originally from warhammer. It's normally Abaddon the Destroyer, they just changed the name a bit because it's been used in countless games to signify something truly evil and bad.

Comment by Frallanboy

Or maybe just a designers revenge on a lazy worker?
Abaddon = A bad Don.
Grats Don!

Comment by 59603

This is dropped from final boss of 10 man version ulduar (yog-saron), so it is supposed to be a higher ilvl item compare ironsoul (from 1st boss). However, both abaddon and ironsoul have the same dps...

Comment by aleca

Abaddon, Lord of Avernus a dota hero.
http://www.dota-allstars.com/hero/2711/index.html

Comment by Falell

This was thecase in previous instances, but is not the case in Ulduar.

Previous instances (with occasional exceptions & not counting hard modes):

All items from each boss had identical item levels
Weapons were the same ilvl as everything else
End bosses dropped higher ilvl gear

Ulduar:

The ilvl of all items for a specific slot are the same across all bosses in a specific mode (normal vs hard)
Weapons are higher ilvl than other items
End bosses do not drop higher lvl loot, increased ilvl items are only found in hard modes

Algalon could throw a wrench into all this, if his hard mode (aka his only mode) dropped higher ilvl loot than all the other hard modes. We'll see.

Comment by 235449

For ret pallies, at least, this weapon is actually inferior to both Ironsoul and Stormedge in terms of damage capability. The majority of a ret pally's attacks scale with weapon damage, and it would take a mountain of stats to make up for the almost 30 point drop in top end damage.

For rets doing solely normal mode 10 man, my suggestion is to farm Loot Leviathan for Ironsoul and enjoy.

Comment by 362325

I would love to get this for my DPS dk just for the near tanking strength and stamina boosts and the fact it would annoy the hell out of my guild leader

Comment by 360189

The color inside the sharp edges of the sword is shifting between brown (as shown on the picture i posted) and blue about every 2 seconds.
Really amazing graphics that unfortunately can't be shown in a picture.

Comment by 362592

In Christian and Judaism religion, In the Revalation of St. John, Abaddon is the "King of Tormenting Locusts" and the "Angel of the Bottomless Pit."

This is quite possibly making a reference this.

edit: Correct me if I'm incorrect ^^;

Comment by Greenproject

The stats of this blade are dreamed by the most of the Melee DPSers,the name is just great,but the Design is awful for such a powerful weapon.

Comment by 346367

Since this isn't Unique-Equipped can a Titan's Grip warrior use two of these to maximize health. This is atm the highest base staminia weapon.

Comment by 363202

This sword also shares the name of a DotA (Defense of the Ancients) hero in Warcraft III, who uses a similar looking sword as his weapon.

Comment by 30628

Abaddon means Evil or Dark in latin

Comment by Myriani

I just got Abaddon this week. I'm a Blood Tank/Frost DPS on my DK. This weapon is fantastic for tanking as Blood, as the vast majority of your damage is purely physical and the armor penetration gives a nice kick to your overall TPS.

It's hard to hit cap as a tank, and this blade has a healthy amount of Strength, Stamina and Hit, and rivals the 25 man 2-handers purely based on stat allocation.

Oh yeah, and it looks badass.

Comment by Titan

ooh this looks like it will be every Plate DPS's wet dream.

I WANT IT NOW.

Comment by Antrion

also Abaddon is the name of an evil giant in the Land of Elyon books.

Comment by 325521

The dps is decent, but the dmg is too low =/

Comment by Loreanadruid

Stormedge wins in any dps comparison... end of story... more hit, SLIGHTLY less armor penne, but with a bit slower so its better for any melee dpser... so yeah... it wins

Comment by 183025

This could quite possibly be a reference to the end boss of the Nightfall campaign in Guildwars, who is named Abaddon as well.

Comment by Iconix

And I can't believe you're lecturing people on normalization when you don't understand how it works either.

From the article you linked on wowwiki:

Normalization refers to an Attack Power adjustment made to instant attacks

Normalization only affects the bonus damage gained from attack power, which is why top-end damage still DOES matter. Normalization was created to ensure that the top-end damage of the weapon is the only determining factor in damage difference, and not that slower weapons also received a larger per-hit damage bonus from attack power as well.

Once again from the wowwiki Normalization article you linked without apparently reading:

Prior to patch 1.8, the weapon damage used for instant attacks was:

damage = base_weapon_damage + (weapon_speed * Attack Power / 14)

Currently, the normalized weapon damage for instant attacks is:

normalized_damage = base_weapon_damage + (X * Attack Power / 14)

where X is:

* 1.7 for daggers
* 2.4 for other one-handed weapons
* 3.3 for two-handed weapons
* 2.8 for ranged weapon

Notice that base weapon damage is still part of the damage formula, so for the 2 hypothetical weapons you listed:

Weapon A: 270 - 370 Damage, Speed 3.2, 100 dps
Weapon B: 330 - 430 Damage, Speed 3.8, 100 dps

And a hypothetical 2800 attack power (2800/14 = 200), the final damage for each weapon will be the original damage plus the normalized gain from attack power, or 200 * 3.3 = 660 bonus damage

So therefore:

Weapon A: 270 - 370 Damage + 660 = 930 - 1030 damage
Weapon B: 330 - 430 Damage + 660 = 990 - 1090 damage

Difference in base damage: 60 per swing, difference after AP: 60 per swing

The damage difference after the attack power gain is 60 damage per swing, the same as the difference in the base weapon damage. This difference remains but the attack power adds a fixed amount. Before normalization the bonus damage from attack power would be different for each weapon, magnifying the benefit of using the slower weapon for instant attacks like Crusader Strike, MS, etc.

Pre-normalization:

Weapon A: 270 - 370 base + (200*3.2 = 640) = 910 - 1010 damage
Weapon B: 330 - 430 base + (200*3.8 = 760) = 1090 - 1190 damage

Difference in base damage: 60 per swing, difference after AP: 180 per swing

So before the attack power bonus was normalized, the instant weapon damage was dramatically increased for slower weapons. After normalization, attack power bonus is consistent and only the difference between the weapons' base damage affects their total damage on instant attacks.

Comment by AMIB

Now that we know all of the loot...

With 159 stamina, Abaddon is the highest-stamina Death Knight tanking weapon, unless you are clearing hardmodes or can get an arena rating of 1850 or higher, higher than even the heroic Ulduar non-hard-mode drops. It is also the highest threat weapon for a human DK tank who is not doing 25-man Ulduar.

DKs of other races who aren't doing hard modes or heroic Ulduar will get more threat out of Stormedge, and any DK will get more avoidance out of an agility-based weapon like Hoperender.

DKs who are looking to upgrade from Abaddon without sacrificing stamina have six choices, from lowest possible stamina to highest:
All gem slots are assumed to be Solid Sky Sapphires. Anyone with access to Solid Dragon's Eyes can put them wherever they like.

Dark Edge of Depravity - Dropped by Yogg-Saron in heroic mode Ulduar, with one or zero Keepers assisting the raid. This weapon has 177 stamina, good speed, and tied-for-best-in-slot DPS, as well as agility for avoidance and a significant dollop of hit for threat. On the other hand, haste is relatively low-value for DK tanks, and the amount of AP is low. This is a significant upgrade over non-hard-mode loot, but as this is best-in-slot or tied-for-best-in-slot for four other significant raiding specs (feral druids, arms warriors, and marksman and survival hunters) and a fair bit less than best-in-slot for tanking death knights, some raids will see fit to favor the DPSers. (Your raid, as always, will need to make its own decisions.)
Hammer of Crushing Whispers - Dropped by Yogg-Saron in non-heroic mode Ulduar, with one or zero Keepers assisting the raid. This weapon has 185 stamina and exceptional speed and DPS, as well as a significant dollop of hit for threat. This is a very well-balanced weapon for a death knight tank: the only stat of relatively low value is the critical strike rating.
Aesir's Edge - Dropped by hard-mode XT-002 in non-heroic Ulduar. This weapon has 188 stamina and exceptional speed and DPS. Unlike HoCW above, it is itemized more heavily for stats attractive to DPS classes and specs. On the other hand, it is very nearly as good as HoCW, and drops from a significantly easier boss.
Voldrethar, Dark Blade of Oblivion - Dropped by hard-mode General Vezax in heroic Ulduar, this has 193 stamina, exceptional speed, and tied-for-best-in-slot DPS. This is best-in-slot for nearly every spec which can equip it, and tanking DKs are no exception.
An ilevel 232 Furious Gladiator weapon (example) - Obtained from the arena vendor at 1850 rating. This weapon has 228 stamina and exceptional weapon DPS and speed. On the other hand, critical strike rating is fairly low value to tanks, the resilience is likely useless, and AP does not contribute to avoidance or scale with talents and Blessing of Kings.
An ilevel 239 Furious Gladiator weapon (example) - Obtained from the arena vendor at 2350 rating. This weapon has 240 stamina, exceptional speed, and tied-for-best-in-slot weapon DPS. As with the lower-level PVP weapons, critical strike rating is fairly low value to tanks, the resilience is useless, and AP is less useful than strength.

As for other melee classes, Abaddon is filler. Most classes will prefer Stormedge if they need the hit, Ironsoul if they don't. Both are easier to get and better-itemized for DPS. Until you get any Ulduar drops or a Betrayer of Humanity, this is acceptable filler.

Arms warriors are a notable exception: Abaddon is exceedingly poor for arms warriors. Unless you are replacing a non-epic weapon, an ilevel 200 epic weapon, or Armageddon, replacing your current weapon with Abaddon is a DPS loss, due to the low effectiveness of Sword Specialization.

Comment by 408144

looks awsome XD

Comment by Lahm

With its High Stamina this weapon is excellent for DK tanks

Comment by 428836

Also the name of Horus' Terminator captain of the First Company. He took over the Sons of Horus after the heresy

Comment by 179229

"In the past Jehovah's Witnesses shared the idea that Abaddon was Satan. Modern Jehovah's Witnesses, take the contrasting view, believing that Abaddon is a name given to Jesus." is it just me or did this text say that Jehovah's Witnesses are infact satanist's? :O

Comment by 415748

Death Knight tanking weapon.
'Nuff said.

Comment by 324197

While Ulduar, and particularly Yogg-Saron, is considerably more difficult and time-consuming than Heroic Trial of the Champion, ultimately I feel that Edge of Ruin is a superior weapon. More strength, slower, and better overall itemization for plate DPS. What a shame because this weapon has a cool model.

Comment by iratenax

Abaddon is also the name of the primary antagonist of the MMORPG Guild Wars: Nightfall. He's an evil god that's corrupting the continent of Elona and its habitants, much like Yogg-Saron.

Comment by 481260

A no-no for ret pallies.

Comment by 235720

This sword is a Refrence to Abaddon, a Demon in Christian Demonology.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abaddon_(demon)

Comment by Allakhazam

Dropped of yogg-saron 10 man for us.

Decent sword but you'd think the loot, and especially weapons (in ulduar 25 weapons are ilvl 232, while gear is 226 ), of the yogg would be better then ilevel 219 like the rest of the instance. Nobody in our group needed this over their betrayers, oh well! A very fun fight regardless.

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Abaddon

	Phase 2

Item Level 225
Binds when picked up

Two-Hand	Sword

602 - 903 Damage	Speed 3.40

(221.32 damage per second)
+112 Strength
+168 Stamina
Durability 120 / 120

Requires Level 80
Equip: Improves hit rating by 66.
Equip: Increases your armor penetration by 80.

Sell Price: 26 42 64

Dropped by: Yogg-Saron

Drop Chance: 10.00%

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