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Comment by 56951

This is one of the four rare JC designs obtainable from certain mobs in Storm Peaks. These recipes can only be seen by jewelcrafters, are BoP.

All four designs are listed below:

Design: Accurate Monarch Topaz drops from:

Design: Defender's Twilight Opal drops from:

Design: Fractured Scarlet Ruby drops from:

Nascent Val'kyr

Design: Radiant Forest Emerald drops from:

Comment by Theolol

Design: Defender's Twilight Opal also drops from Stormforged Infiltrator which spawn during the daily Sons of Hodir quest Spy Hunter.

Dropped from the second one I killed during the next daily after getting Jewelcrafting.

Comment by 266564

This is not 100% drop rate. I had to kill over 70 Nascent Val'kyr before I got mine.

Comment by Golgoth

Worth mentioning, since 3.0.8, these are no longer 100% drop rate. It's a guesstimate, but the rate is now probably in line with the other BoP recipes we used to see in TBC.

Comment by 315630

I got this design after killing 151 Nascent Val'kyr. Took forever, I was about to quit but stayed the course. Made over 100 gold.

Comment by 68047

I just killed 98 Nascent Val'Kyr before I got the design. Hang in there, it'll drop sooner or later;D

Comment by Heian

16 kills in and mine dropped.

The mobs are spread out, making it more time-consuming.

Comment by 177291

This is definately no longer a 100% drop

The drop rates on this listed on wowhead are skewed by non-jc kills - they will never see the drop.

Ofc even more skewing is introduced by kills after the design has dropped/been learnt, which will never contain the drop even for a JC.

This means the number on wowhead will never be an accurate representation of the drop chance when farming it - because all kills after the design has dropped will artificially lower the drop rate. This probably explains why the drop rate looks so much lower on some mobs than others - they just get killed more often. You can see this if you look at the number of kills the drop rates are based off.

Presumably, despite the numbers above, the drop rate is actually equal on all the relevant mobs.

My guess based on purely anecdotal evidence (my own farming numbers) is a 1% drop on all of them.

Comment by chrisronline

Just got this after 130 kills

Comment by lyphe

Got it after 182 kills ...
At least they respawn quickly ... didn't actually take too long.

GL :)

Comment by 140351

With armor pen getting an across the board buff in 3.1, and for warriors even more so, and for mace spec warriors even MORE so, I decided to farm this. 87 kills and finally dropped for me. Nascent Val'kyr is a little annoying for melee classes; like most airborne mobs they drift around behind you or stop short to cast. Overall though, much easier to farm this recipe then say Savory Deviate Delight and hopefully will make me some gold when 3.1 comes out and ArP becomes useful......

Edit: PS - keep the dust they drop for 2 reasons- 1) helps you keep track of how many Val'kyr you killed, and 2) sells for about 14g per stack to vendor

Comment by 94939

32 Effing kills. Ugh.

Comment by Ittogami

Guess I got lucky, kill #7 got me the design.

Comment by 280096

Dropped for me after 158 kills.

Comment by salvoroni

For melee classes, I recommend getting on your flying mount to aggro a few. It is easier and quicker than using shoot/throw.

Comment by 342756

Dropped after 12 kills for me.

Comment by Kinni

over 300 kills no drop yet.

Comment by 9538

dropped after about 50 kills , made over 50g in trash loot and got the bitter anquish trinket boe epic to world drop sells for 5k gold my server.

Comment by jbwest

137 kills, kind of annoying.

Comment by Dallmine

47 kills here.

Comment by 341185

I killed 50 and came back to check what the drop rate was, feeling pretty discouraged. Since it's 0.5% for everyone, and I sincerely doubt that half of all toons who kill these valkyr are jewelcrafters, it's definitely over 1% drop rate. And probably closer to 2% or more. If you're interested in what I think the real drop-rate is and how I came to that conclusion, read on:

According to this website, http://www.lsmason.com/blog/2007/05/15/profession-and-skill-popularity/, as of May 2007 (very out of date, yes, but still interesting), Jewelcrafting was the least popular profession with 8.8% of the population being Jewelcrafters. Mining and herbalism were the two most popular professions possessed by an astounding 36.3% and 29.9% of the population. I doubt the distribution has gotten more skewed in either direction than this with the addition of more professions and better balancing between them. In fact, I bet it has normalized somewhat and the highest percentages have dropped closer to 100% divided by the number of professions (3 gathering professions plus 8 production professions) all times 2 because you can have 2 primary professions, or ~18.2%. If ~18.2% of the Nascent Vrykul killing population was JCs, this design would have a true drop rate of 2.74%. Furthermore, characters at or near the maximum level will possess more crafting skills than those at the very beginning. Also, Jewelcrafting is often considered one of the best professions, so I would surmise that this number has not only gone up but is higher for those at or near 80, but it is doubtful to have reached as much as the peak of the popularity of gathering professions of old. So it could be greater than 8.8% but I sincerely doubt as much as 30%. In the case of 10% of the population who kill Nascent Valkyrs, the true drop rate for Jewelcrafters (hereafter, JCs) would be 5%. If this sample of the population were as much as 25% JCs the true drop rate for JCs would be 2%. I don't think it's that high, like I said it'd probably be closer to ~18.2%, so between 10% and ~18.2% of the population being JC or 2.74%-5% and given some rough probability calculations based on what people have said here, I think 3% is very close.

So, after killing 50 vrykuls, I came back discouraged and killed some more. 3 vykul later and I am the proud new owner of Design: Fractured Scarlet Ruby. Thank you.

Comment by Arcage

I stopped off to farm these at lunch, and it dropped from the 14th mob.
sorry to hear others are having a harder time at it.

Comment by 362410

Well, it took me 145 kills to get this thing to drop. As much as I hate farming, I actually found the grind to be worth it in the end. Not only did I get a shiney new JC design, the Dissolved Soul Essences these lovely ladies drop (at a 100% rate) stack up to 20 times. One stack = 15g sell if I recall correctly, give or take. I ended up with over 100g after killing them all just from the junk, plus the other random greens and other assorted nonsense. All in all, a little less than 200g. Happy farming!

Comment by lehearts

Took about 1.5 hours of farming. I was the only JC farming, and killed about 120 of them before it dropped.
Made ~100g selling just the grey trash drops.
-20 relic of ulduar
-3 green armor/weapon drops
-50 Frostweave cloth

Comment by Kc7vwc

Not the most helpful post, but putting in a warning to others farming - don't expect quick result.
2 days and counting so far. Over 300g made from the Dissolved Soul Essence alone but no pattern yet.

Comment by Bizerk

Took me about 15minutes to get it to drop, during this time I made 30gold just from gray drops.

Comment by 141088

Took me 60 kills exactly...not too bad, making 65s per dissolved soul essence(100% drop) Very annoying for melee to farm though :(

Comment by 194950

readed here.. saw the drop rate, got my self a beer, popcorns and was rdy for 1-2 hours mindless grind.

4 kills and it dropped :)

GL there :)

Comment by MonthOLDpickle

Got mine in 5 drops.

Comment by 33465

I killed about 650 of them and that freaking design didn't drop. Even with extreme bad luck it shouldn't take THAT long. Just to be sure, I checked my JWC and ... what a surprise ... I've already learned that pattern! :) It must have dropped while I was questing in that area, I learned it and totally forgot about it :-D

Lesson to learn: Check your jewelcrafting, you may have already learned it while doing quests there.

Comment by Kc7vwc

Checked my JC 'spellbook' only thing in there close to it is Fractured Bloodstone. i'm 431 JC but I only need 390 to learn it so it should drop.

Comment by Kellathon

Took me about 250 kills to get. I got a ton of the soul essences, banking a couple hundred gold with them, lots of grey armour/weapons, getting around 30g with them, 2 greens which were vendored for a couple gold each and the epic trinket (o_O) which is currently sitting in my Trinket #2 slot :)

Happy farming!

Comment by 305091

The drop rates on these seem to be about 4% now, here are my results for the four BoP patterns which are zone drops:

Defender's Twilight Opal
No drop count, got this first while doing JC daily

Accurate Monarch Topaz
21 kills, easiest to farm since I went for Stoic Mammoths which have a short respawn time and I could just AOE down a pack of them.

Fractured Scarlet Ruby
23 kills, only one choice of mob for obtaining this recipe.

Radiant Forest Emerald
27 kills, both types of mobs, just rode down the valley killing every harpy I saw.

Comment by mercutiouk

Dropped mine on kill #131.

Just keep at it in the area, it will come.

As a small tip, fly through the 4 together out the front of the bigger building for fast kills (melee/tanks only i'd think tho).

Comment by Frankwhite

Can verify killed 121 to get the pattern on 6/4/09

Comment by 219322

I actually got mine within a few kills, so the drop rate isnt as low as it would seem. I didnt kill more than 10 mobs of each before the pattern dropped for me.

Edit: The mammoths took me about 70ish kills to get the pattern to drop.

Comment by GarnetAngel

I killed 100 in one day with no luck. Came back the following day and got it on my 80th kill. So 180 kills in all. I was the only one both days.

Comment by 393881

Got myself ready for an hour or two of farming for this recipe, came to their spawn point, 5 kills later I had the recipe. Probably just luck though.

Comment by Zephira

Dunno if they changed DR on it but after 13 kills i got DCed and after i came back first kill i got it so 14 kills in 30 min I may just be lucky tho

Comment by 410502

Damn I must have been lucky, I killed 10 of them and got it lol. Me and my druid buddy went out there expecting to be out there for an hour or 2, I was really happy to see it in the 3rd pack we pulled.

Comment by subx3r0

Killed a few less then 50 or so, just finished killing 3 and forgot to loot, and over pulled the next pack of mobs without healing and died, flew back to my body and rezzed, looted the 3 bodies and got the design plus a BoE blue.

Comment by 403553

200 kills later.....

Comment by Kiliana

Between me and a friend we got it in about 150 for both of us.
First came in 4 kills second at about 150.

Comment by 255254

I've been extremely lucky and got in on my 4th kill.

Comment by BGG34

2nd Time through the town, about 29-30kills, not a bad rate.

Comment by 307735

haha 3 kills and boom

Comment by kasika

30 or so kills and about 40g worth of greys to vendor.

Comment by 427415

Took me 2 mins, 9-10 kills which i aoed pretty easily.

Comment by 266998

killed 42 mobs and got my recipie

Comment by 426024

If you want this design but don't got a flying mount you can get to Valkyrion (the village in which you can find the Nascent Val'kyrs) by going to 81.66 in Icecrown and walk up to the ledge (see this picture, it can be a bit tricky) and then follow the path up to south. At 83.68 you gonna have to make a little jump down. Only a few yard forward you gonna have to jump again and this time it is really important that you run close to the mountain wall, otherwise you will fall down. Now follow the path to north and when it ends turn right and jump down. After the jump you just have to turn left and follow the path up to Rohmedal Pass and from there I think you can find your way to Valkyrion by yourself.

I got the design with my level 74 warlock earlier today after killing about 40-50 Nascent Val'kyrs.

P.S. I actually don't know if this is against Blizzard's rules (I have really hard to belive so though) but you do this at your own risk.

Comment by 309757

Killed about 50 of them and the design dropped. Then as I left the village, Vyragosa payed me a visit :D.

Comment by 432746

48 kills and it dropped. Made short work of them as a hunter so it wasn't much of a grind at all.

Comment by 73271

After doing some research on droprate, i started farming this design. My killcount is 300 atm, and still no sign of the design... I doublechecked the name of the mobs i was killing and the droprate % taking Insolent1's math in consideration (also doublechecked that, it checks out). Has anybody heard of recent changes to this design?

Comment by Venroh

Killed around 10 before it dropped. Was pleasantly surprised. If you're lucky like me farming this will be no problem for you.

Comment by Weava

Umm this took only about 10 minutes while i was talking in vent to find this. Killed maybe about 30, just flew grabbed a couple, and finally i grabbed a pack of 7 and a few of those other chicks on the ground and Walah! Glad I didn't have to buy it or something. :)

Comment by 459315

Took me 48 kills and some 15 minutes just now. It ain't too hard to farm :)

Comment by mdcwdzies

I was told by my former GM I needed Armor Penetration (I laughed because I knew it was getting nerfed with 3.2.2) So being a JC i figured I would go and try and farm this. I arrived at the scene and killed for about 5 minutes (rogue and looked at poison timers). I got the drop after my 12th kill. I turned around and sold the grey trash for 16g!
So I go back here now with my DK and farm the trash loot, get greens, blues (chestplate), and relics. I am making over 200g an hour here with my 80 DK.

Comment by Horsekebab

Took me 90 kills

Comment by rieperx

I'm not sure if this has changed or I was just extremely lucky but I went to farm this pattern today and it dropped on my 4th kill. I was prepared for a really long grind.

Comment by foxheart

I got this to drop after 208 kills. This happened within a week of posting this comment.

Comment by 174896

I farmed 60 val'kyr before this dropped. It took me about 15 minutes.

Previous comments post the following kill counts:
1/45, 1/300, 1/64 ,1/48, 1/90, 1/4, 1/208, 1/60

Napkin math says about 1/102 on average. Not counting the outliers, I think ~1/60 is more accurate. Don't expect to spend all day on this.

Comment by 81890

Took exactly 85 kills to get this for me.

Comment by Eachon

Took 32 kills to drop. I was the only one farming.

100% chance to drop Dissolved Soul Essence which sells 13g60s a stack.

Comment by Thefez

Took me just 3 kills. Gotta love that RNG <3

Comment by 549409

I found this off Nascent Val'Kyr, I hear its a low drop rate but i got mine after 10min of w8ing for a VoA10 group to fill. All i did was fly around aggroing a few of them and aoeing them down. Pick up the grays and sell them.

Comment by Azorius

Dropped on my 71st kill. I wasnt the only one out there, but it still only took about 20 mins as an Ele shaman.

Comment by 221673

In a group with one other person, had to kill 104 of the Nascent Val'Kyr before it dropped.

Comment by bwirum

Some designs are only available through drops, this is one of them.

All blue regular drop-only gem designs:
The Storm Peaks:
Design: Accurate Monarch Topaz - Mammoths in The Storm Peaks
Design: Defender's Twilight Opal - Stormforged dwarves in The Storm Peaks
Design: Fractured Scarlet Ruby - Nascent Val'kyr in Storm Peaks
Design: Radiant Forest Emerald - Frostfeathers in The Storm Peaks

Boss drops:
Design: Deadly Monarch Topaz - Keristraza, The Nexus (Heroic only)
Design: Deft Monarch Topaz - Shonnir the Ironshaper, Halls of Stone (Heroic only)
Design: Fierce Monarch Topaz - Ingvar the Plunderer, Utgarde Keep (Heroic only)
Design: Infused Twilight Opal - Anub'arak, Azjol-Nerub (Heroic only)
Design: Precise Scarlet Ruby - Herald Volazj, Ahn'kahet: The Old Kingdom (Heroic only)
Design: Thick Autumn's Glow - Cyanigosa, The Violet Hold (Heroic only)
Design: Timeless Forest Emerald - The Propeht Tharon'ja, The Drak'Tharon Keep (Heroic only)

Bind on Equip World drops (buy at AH):
Design: Champion's Monarch Topaz - World drop (BoE)
Design: Etched Monarch Topaz - World drop (BoE)
Design: Inscribed Monarch Topaz - World drop (BoE)
Design: Misty Forest Emerald - World drop (BoE)
Design: Purified Twilight Opal - World drop (BoE)
Design: Resolute Monarch Topaz - World drop (BoE)
Design: Shining Forest Emerald - World drop (BoE)
Design: Sovereign Twilight Opal - World drop (BoE)
Design: Stalwart Monarch Topaz - World drop (BoE)
Design: Tenuous Twilight Opal - World drop (BoE)

All meta drop-only designs:
Boss drops:
Design: Austere Earthsiege Diamond - King Ymiron, Utgarde Pinnacle (Normal and Heroic)
Design: Bracing Earthsiege Diamond - Cache of Eregos, The Oculus (Normal and Heroic)
Design: Eternal Earthsiege Diamond - Loken, Halls of Lightning (Normal and Heroic)

Bind on Equip World drops (buy at AH):
Design: Beaming Earthsiege Diamond - World drop (BoE)
Design: Destructive Skyflare Diamond - World drop (BoE)
Design: Thundering Skyflare Diamond - World drop (BoE)

Comment by 266904

Found this design today after 105 kills.

Comment by 532081

dropped me pretty easy, had to kill only 12. :)

Comment by Pappi

Took me 173 kills to get mine. I have to admit, I was starting to get really frustrated trying to get this. But, it'll more than make up for it by selling gems and getting my Rogue and Druid some cuts.
For a Ret Pally, obviously, the mobs werent very hard to kill. I would flying mount and fly around, agro'ing multiple ones flying about, and AoE down. If you go around Valkyrion in a clockwise motion, by the time you get back to where you started, the mobs should have respawned. Quick respawn rate, but seems to be a terrible drop rate.

Comment by 245629

Got after 129 kills. Almost gave up 'cause you can just buy epic.

Comment by 464696

Took me 65 kills.

Comment by mrkorb

First kill. You may all hate me and rate down this post in revenge now. :P

Comment by Mazolek

Got mine while ago after 132 Valkyries :)

Comment by 18431

Prepared for the long grind...pulled a mob of two and it dropped from the first one looted. :-)

Comment by Shielda

Ok this is kinda crazy i started farming about 6pm server time and about three kills in i get this epic that ive never heard of called tears of bitter anguish i was like cool i can go sell that after i get done farming for this stupid design, anyway 2 hours later im still farming and i get another one! im like "what are the odds of that?", turns out these mobs are the only mobs to drop tears of bitter anguish, so good luck farming this design you might just get a nice surprise while you do!

Comment by Areia25

The drop location is still correct in Classic WoTLK in case anyone is farming and questioning their life choices.

Took me 363 kills to get the drop.

Comment by fatdrood

Went and farmed this today and it took me 182 kills,respawns are pretty fast and its very easy on a ret pally using sense undead and taunt to pull them down

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Design: Fractured Scarlet Ruby

Item Level 80
Binds when picked up

Requires Jewelcrafting (390)
Use: Teaches you how to cut a Fractured Scarlet Ruby

Sell Price: 4

Dropped by: Nascent Val'kyr

Drop Chance: 0.88%

Fractured Scarlet Ruby
Item Level 80
+16 Armor Penetration Rating
"Matches a Red Socket."

Sell Price: 4 50

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