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Comment by CECroix

Reward for completing the quest They Grow Up So Fast, which requires you turn in 20 rugged leather, 20 runecloth, 80 gold, and 20 venomhide baby teeth to Mor'vek in Un'goro Crater. Teeth are acquired by completing daily quests given to you by the venomhide hatchling you receive when you accept the quest. Since the hatchling only gives you one quest a day and therefore one tooth a day, it will take 20 days to get this mount.

Comment by Ralanost

The races required are all horde, so not for alliance. This was and is our equivalent of the Winterspring Frostsaber, which is alliance only.

Comment by Ramrom95

Yes, this is the equivalent to the Alliance's Winterspring Frostsaber, Which is obtainable in Winterspring and sadly not so easy to get, Horde always whined about not being able to use the Saber now they get to use this cool Raptor! woot

(i basically made this whole post mainly to give the link to the frostsaber ^.^ )

Comment by akkon

sorry to ask this, but why does it only require 60% mount training and is still a 100% speed mount? Or is it just wrong in the tooltip? Noticed the same thing on the ally mount.

Edit: and by 60% mount training i mean 75 riding skill, not that's it's for lvl 40...

Comment by ninjachimp

If you would read notes you would have know the 100% mount training is dropping to level 40....

While this is true, the mount tooltip still says "Requires Riding (75)" which is the skill usually required to use the 60% speed mounts.

Comment by 2OfDiamonds

To get this / this you will have to do Toxic Tolerance, which unlocks Venomhide Eggs and its followup They Grow Up So Fast - you get them from Mor'vek who will be put (back) into the game.

This is the Horde counterpart to Reins of the Winterspring Frostsaber which you can buy off Rivern Frostwind, after you become exalted with his faction.

Comment by Imgonnahurtu

Why was the comment above mine downranked? Its completely true that the alliance mount has always only required 60% mount training (aside from when there was only one type of riding training back in vanilla).

Blizzard has a habit of making it so that low levels can use insanely hard to get items if they can manage to get them (such as the arena grandmaster from the STV arena).

Comment by Aidanlancaster

To clarify above. 75 is the apprentice riding skill for 60% mounts... So guessing from that you DONT need 150 riding skill. However the mount requires level 40.

Comment by Ramrom95

Im gonna say this and clear all misunderstandings:

Patch 3.2:
Level 20 - Riding 75 - 60% Mounted Speed
Level 40 - Riding 150 - 100% Mounted Speed

This mount requires Level 40, the Winterspring Frostsaber will, should require Level 40 at 3.2 aswell.

It also requires Riding 75, which is the Apprentice Riding Skill, dont take things too complicated, you are going to ride a 100% mount with Apprentice Riding, exclusivly for those Mounts (Not sure if there are any others).

Hope this makes people understand better.

Comment by 332714

In my experience, Horde has never given much of a crap that they can't get the frostsaber... Mostly a matter of being irritated that the ravasaur trainer was around from about the same time, yet until now, never offered a quest of any sort. Clearly was intended as the Horde equivalent, but it's only being implemented now that hardly anybody needs it. I guess at least this is one thing from the original continents that Blizzard's finally implementing. Now we just need Uldum, Hyjal, Gilneas, the numerous unmarked mystery zones on the Eastern Kingdoms, a legitimate way to reach Dun Morogh Airfield, Old Ironforge, Azshara Crater and/or something else to validate Azshara's existence as a zone, endings to various quest chains that abruptly leave off with no resolution, Grim Batol, various islands (Though those will hopefully come with a Maelstrom expansion), Stormwind Vault... The list goes on -_-

Comment by bathazar

It is a special epic mount that only requires you to have trained for the level 75 riding. This is the only mount on the horde side that has 100% speed increase but doesnt require you to have bought the epic riding skill.

Comment by Boudica79

Does anyone have a screenshot of the mount? Would love to know what it looks like before I spend 3 weeks constantly in Un'goro, the weeks grinding in winterspring on my rogue drove me insane getting my winterspring frostaber :P

Comment by 324094

it takes 20 days to do! T.T

Comment by 314819

Finaly! a rapter that doesnt have that ball thing on its horn like it's in some circus.

Comment by Slyfanitor

Is that screenshot for real? That thing looks huge!

Comment by wildowned1995

Well, its only 20 or 25 times of spit, not 2k ! lool thats just epicfail, iv done this on my PTR realm hunter so stop make lies

Comment by 130848

The Winterspring Frostsaber is the same way, it used to be the only Epic mount you 'could' aquire before getting to lvl 60 due to the diminished required riding training. That was back in the day, so they are just giving it a fair balance even though it's a fairly useless feature now that you can get the Epic riding mount training at a lower level than 60.

Comment by 433729

I think that it is totally worth it. Why? it's pretty time consuming and it's a nice additive to your mount collection.

Comment by dbfblackbull

I'm just thinking about one thing. Does this trainer also give you a faction and reputation? Since Alliance still gains 1 more exalted faction from their farming, for the achievement, than hordes do. Could anyone confirm this?

Comment by 174234

The persons commenting on patchnotes and mount training changes may be correct, but to answer your question more accurately:

The Alliance equivalent, the Winterspring Sabre mount, never required epic training. You could get an epic mount speed mount without epic training and that was one of the huge draws to it at one time. This became a non-issue as gold became easier to come by, but at one day in age it saved you a good chunk of change ;)

Comment by upperthorax

If you plan on getting this mount, it's best to party up for the first quest. Venomous Ravasaurs are pretty sparse among the other raptors in the marsh area, so don't try to solo it if you can help it.

Also, un-equip your weapon and just punch them in the face, try not to kill them.

Good luck everyone, see you in 19 more days on your new Ravasaurs.

Comment by eufouria

I did the first two quests today and I found it pretty easy on my level 60 priest. For the first quest I just equipped my skinning knife and auto-attacked it, healing myself when it was needed. I only did about 20% damage to the one that I was attacking and managed to get 20 applications of poison. I noticed I was resisting the poison quite often so I can imagine it would be harder for a level 80 to do it, because they'll resist the poison more often.

Another thing is that you seem to have to hit the ravasaur to be poisoned so its a good idea to bring a weapon like a skinning knife that doesn't train any skill. I hardly missed when I was attacking and was hitting the ravasaur for 3 damage, however my friend who was a level 69 druid took much longer because he used his bare hands and ended up just training his unarmed skilled on them until he was high enough to hit them. Then he started to become poisoned very quickly.

Also I read this page before doing the quest and was under the impression that you had to do this quest 20 times, but you only have to do this once.

The second quest quest involved collecting 4 eggs and the eggs are very easy to see, although I was the only one doing the quest at the time so it would obviously take longer if there are more people.

For the third quest you're given a baby ravasaur pet that you summon and it gives you quests, which are 1 per day. The first that I got was to feed it 12 silithid eggs from the hive in tanaris, but my friend, the druid, got a quest to collect dinosaur meat so it's probably random. You get 1 baby tooth for each quest, and you need 20 teeth to get the mount, and its one quest per day so it should take 20 days to get the mount . Also the pet can only be summoned in un'goro crater, tanaris and silithus, so bad luck to anybody who was considering keeping the pet.

So far I'm quite enjoying having my own baby, so don't let the poison quest put you off. If you do it properly it will take much less time, an then the other quests take very little time.

Comment by MegasAxelias

*****HUNTER COMMENT******

This might help any 80 or high lvl hunters doing this quest. Very easy. Beast tracking til you find a venomhide. Once you have one take off ***ALL*** your gear and weapons. Put on aspect of the monkey. Hit the venomhide since you can only get poisoned by hitting them. When they finally are about to die (don't push your luck past 15%) feign death. They're back at full health rinse and repeat. I got my quest off of just one venomhide.

Comment by skipy

I just began this chain yesterday, (toxic tolerance) and i think it's fairly easy, my toon is a lock 78, I just got unarmed and started punching at a venomhide ravasaur (360 unarmed skill) ocasionaly the ravasaur hit me with some posion and thats when the requirement raised, I was grouped with a hunter friend and he just sat there receiving credit, my unarmed skill raised to 375 I think it took me like 5 minutes to get all 20, I think it aint necessesary to hit the raptor, just aggro it and let it have fun with you 'cos i received credits when he hit ME with its poison not the other way around.

The second quest (Venomhide Eggs) is just about picking some eggs, those are scatered around in some nests, it wont be very hard to find them.

And the last one (They grow up so Fast) is to do the 20 daily quest the hatchilng will give you, the first one I did was to get 5 plumages from some birds in tanaris, the second I got is to kill 15 un'goro dinosaurs and give him their meat, I'll update this as soon as I get more quest.

Comment by 312803

Sell Price: 2 gold 50 silver

Why would anyone in the world want to vendor it?

/glare

Comment by 437748

If you forget to do one of the daily quests (for say a weekend trip), will the quest fail and you'll have to start over or it just takes that much longer to complete the quest?

Comment by roarana

you do not have to kill these raptors to complete the quest just aggro a couple let them hit you a bit and then when after a bit run away heal and reaggro....do not attack other ppls that look like they are afk and getting hit...chances are they arent
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update : just did on my priest...you can get all 20 poisons from the same raptor....just take your weaps off and hit it with your fist...as a lvl 80 priest...i didnt kill it

Comment by Zeldendorf

I for one am highly dissapointed in this mount, Instead of Blizzard making it actually look like a real Venomhide Ravasaur They couldn't even get off their lazy asses and just decided "Oh hey lets just reskin the low level troll mounts instead of giving it a unique model" They add in a new instance, A new raid, Raptor / Ravasaur pets, Class changes etc and they can't even give us a new skin for a mount which has been due for 5 years now

Just downrate my comment even though its a valid arguement

Comment by 439965

You pretty much read mi mind. I can only see it now, submarines from engineering, maybe a better aquatic form for the druids, a good use for the sea turtle.....

Comment by 439965

Two more quests I did in addition to yours were to collect insect eggs from Tanaris, and Insect meat from the ones in Ungoro

Comment by 440157

This Mount would be one of my favorites if it didn't hav that retarded horn sticking straight infront of their face instead of upwards like a normal raptors not these mutated freaks :P

Comment by 329895

No one else just a little miff'd that after all this time our ravasaur isn't a ravasaur at all? Sorry but this reskin of a starter mount is pretty lack luster. Here's hoping they fix the model to actually look like a THIS. Yeah i know, just looking for something to complain about but that aside the point is still valid that the mount is indeed NOT a ravasaur. Much less that of the "Venomhide" variety...

Comment by Surag

This screenshot is fake! This raptor is no so big, he have normal raptor mount size.

Comment by Aknazer

Some notes. Yes you can get the venom done on one ravasaur. As a shaman I would simply run away and let them reset once the mob got low.

As for mounts that didn't/don't require proper riding skill. Originally no special mount required riding skill to use. Personally I paid all of 520g (or might have been 540g) because I bought the AV mount before riding skill was fully implemented (they gave the epic riding skill to any with a 100% speed mount when they redid riding skill). Also the PvP mounts only required lvl40 riding for the longest time.

Comment by alexataide

Well since nobody mentioned. Chain counts to Loremaster of Kalimdor achievement, thanks God.

Comment by Koragos

Submitted a pic of me with mah baby in dalaran.

I'm so glad I don't have to feed it anymore :)

Comment by mizucutter

WOOT first on my server Malfurion. :P This take 20 days but it gives an achievement so it was worth the time and effort!

Comment by Gortook

@ Crochan May your words be granted for "Uldum, Hyjal, & Gilneas" Via next Xpac.

Comment by 436149

Take Note that if you are faction changing and have this you will get the Winterspring frostsaber.

Comment by MilknessDalvengy

Starts with Mor'vek, in Southern Un'Goro crater gives the first quest. The farming consists of no actual farming; just 2 simple quests, then another quest which involves doing 20 dailies, 1 per day, 20 Runecloth, 20 Rugged Leather and 80 gold. The Horde version is a black raptor, not unlike the PvP mount, but unarmored.
The first quest is to build up an immunity to their poisonious skin; you must find Venomhide Raptors, which can be difficult because they're rareish and many people farm them now that this mount has come out. I suggest a macro, /target venomhide, but if it's crowded, you'll probably only get dead ones. Luckily, if you're alone, it's very simple. You must fight Venomhides and get splashed with their poison. Players might remember this; if you get splashed, you get a buff on your weapon. However, the buff doesn't hurt the venomhides... What you should do, especially at 80, is to go barefisted and naked. You can still get splashed, but they won't die as quickly. This is the only difficult part. Should only take 6 or 7 raptors.
The 2nd part involves you finding white raptor eggs. They're surronded by pink eggs, and they're easy to collect. You only need 4 and very easy to find. Again, if other people are there, it can be time-consuming, but it's quick so competition will leave.
The last part gives you a pet; you summon the pet who gives you dailies. The dailies are numerous and random, so only 1 per day. You must kill certain creatures or find certain food stuffs to feed to your pet, then you get a tooth. After twenty teeth, your pet is "mature" enough to ride. This involves going to Un'Goro, Tanaris and Silithus. Very easy if you stick to it, may only have to come on for ~20 minutes a day.
Then you hand in your teeth, gold, leather and cloth, and you have your mount. Congradulations!

Edit: I also posted this on Wintersaber Trainers, and I had "There IS a Horde version of this quest". Needless to say, I removed it.

Comment by 389201

I just got him today, and happened to be standing next to another troll riding his raptor mount when I noticed something. He is indeed slightly larger than the other raptor mounts. A small thing, but worth noting.

EDIT: He just got stuck in the door to the Undercity elevator. :O

Comment by Xicon

Grouping up for the first quest is an excellent idea, as every member of the party gets credit when any ONE person gets an application of poison. Whether this is a bug or intended remains to be seen, but use it while we can!

Comment by 296276

SPOILER WARNING
Post-Cataclysm Announcement:
It's amazing how much of that is actually getting put in from your list.

Now we just need Uldum, Hyjal, Gilneas, the numerous unmarked mystery zones on the Eastern Kingdoms, a legitimate way to reach Dun Morogh Airfield, Old Ironforge, Azshara Crater and/or something else to validate Azshara's existence as a zone, endings to various quest chains that abruptly leave off with no resolution, Grim Batol, various islands (Though those will hopefully come with a Maelstrom expansion), Stormwind Vault... The list goes on

Uldum- Added as a new zone below Tanars
Hyjal- Finally opened, with Ragnaros back
Gilneas- Greymane Wall opened, with Worgen as the new Ally race
Unmarked Easter Kingdoms Zones-Various new zones, including the Twilight Highlands
Dun Morogh Airfield*
Old Ironforge*
Azshara Legitamacy- Azshara being remade as a 10-20 starting zone for Goblins, the new Hordies
Quest Chain Ends*
Grim Batol- Raid hub with Deathwing, entrance to the Twilight Highlands
Various Islands- Lost Isles, Sunken City of Vash'ir, Tol Barad, ect.
Stormwind Vault*

(*- With the remaking of all of the Eastern Kingdoms and Kalimdor, it is very likely that we will be seeing some (if not all) of these come up.

Comment by Kinni

the absolute worst thing about getting this mount is the travel time to Un'goro/Tanaris/Silithus on a daily basis. Im actually traveling there now as i write this. As an 80 the quests are rediculously easy and the worst downfall is they give no cash reward upon completion. So what...its another mount in my bags.

Comment by 155307

http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/faction-change/index.xml

Yes it is the counterpart for faction change.

Comment by 167060

This is probably a stupid question but...
For the quest part where it takes 20 days do you have to come on 20 days in a row.
Or everyday that your on do a quest till it gets to 20?

Comment by 96252

You can get a Wintersaber in 1-2 days? What? Maybe if you never sleep, never have to get up to eat or go to the bathroom, and are on a server all by yourself. Realistically...no.

Comment by khaltak

Note: unlike all other epic raptor mount (excluding the origonal ones) this one does not have any armour on it also, it has replaced the mottled raptor in the 'stables' outside gadgetzan

Comment by 457185

As far as the first quest goes, if you are 80, unequip ANYTHING that adds damage to your attack. Basically, all your gear, weapons, trinkets, etc.. There are plenty of venomhide ravasaurs around, btw, i had no trouble whatsoever finding them, and i only needed 3 of them to get all 20 poison splashes. And you cannot just aggro the ravasaur and turn around and let it hit you 500 times, you MUST be hitting it, and each hit has a % chance to splash you with poison. With all my gear off, i did around 75 damage per hit, which was low enough to hit it 50 or so times before it died.

Comment by 132416

Kish, how did you get a full-size mount AND a baby? Or is that someone else's? I am debating not finishing the quest so I can keep it as a pet...but if I can have BOTH, I want that :)

Comment by Lombra

It's almost worth changing faction to Horde to get this, just to change back and have it transform into a wintersaber instead, due to the not-quite-as-insane grind.

Almost.

Edit: Well, not any longer. :)

Comment by 333489

I love how people are freaking out that you dont have to have the epic training to get this mount, and others are retorting with you can get epic training at 40 anyways, when no one has mentioned that to even start the quest line you have to be level 48, AND be able to kill several creatures around Un'goro and Tanaris

Comment by 461915

doing the quest for this mount gets you so frustrated, all the effort (20 days). Its good to get if your in the lower 50's before heading to OUTLAND, but if you are questing in northrend you have to go all the way to ungoro/tanaris. But there is one possibility, you can take the portal in scholozar basin to top of ungoro, then when your done you can hearthstone back to where you were questing in Northrend....hope this helps

Comment by 476057

This is a awsome looking mount and soo easy to do... i will do my best to explain how to get it and what the quest look like.

For starters you go to un'goro and to the pools where the raptors are. make sure to scale the wall for the troll on the raptor i found it easy to toggle "low level quest"

1st
Now he is gonna explain to you what the raptor is and talk about you need to be infected; its very simlple take off all your gear as a 80 and punch or get a low level wepon you have to be hiting them in order for them to spit on you.

2nd
you go talk to him and he sais you need to go steal a egg so we can train them, and then he talks about how cool they are and how you need to be careful.

3rd
after you do that; go talk to him agian and then you get started on the chain now at the end you need x20 teeth from the raptor x20 runecloth and x20 rugged leather in order for him to make the saddle for you.

4th
the easyest part is to do the dailys for 20days. what you need to do everyday is go to ungoro/tanaris/slithilus and summon the raptor and he/she will tell you what it wants to eat or what it wants to do.

5th
One quest is to go to ungoro and get slithid meat they are at the bottom of the map at a brown dot all you do there is kill 10 of the little bug things.

6th
is the dinosaur meat... all you do it go to ungoro and kill 10 dinos there like the flying ones and the diamadions or whatever.

7th
Now the quest are easy 1 of them is in tanaris it is feathers you go to the bottom south of the map and where you see bones you should see some of those birds just go over their and kill them they drop feathers and you need about 5 of them... after you are done with that you will get a venomhide tooth and a story like "the raptor grabs the feathers and trys to put them on his wrists" and when you talk to it, he/she will say "it looks as if thinking you are its mother/father.

8th
Next one in tanaris is the one called poached,scrambled,or raw. which is a quest you go to the noxious lair or something and the SW side of the map and get 15 eggs there they are orange and all over the ground.

9th
After you do these random quest for 20days and get all the mats you will be a proud owner of a Venomhide Ravuasar
love mine got it on both of my toons looks extra cool no any BE and Orc.

Comment by 421626

PLEASE NOTE:

If you RACE CHANGE. All your quests will be deleted and the teeth will be gone!

However, go back to the quest giver in un'goro and all your teeth will return!

Comment by 508661

There seems to be some sort of problem with some of the 20-day daily quests. It seems that some people aren't getting the drops needed for completion of the quests. i.e., the gorishi don't drop silithid meat and the dinosaurs don't drop dinosaur meat. I'm not sure how wide-spread the problem is, but I know of a few people on my realm who have the issue.

Comment by Forest

One question. If I get this raptor, and faction change to alliance, will I have Winterspring Frostsaber then?

Comment by Kokolums

Honestly what makes the Winterspring Frostsaber so special is that it is such a beautiful mount and isn't armored. To be perfectly honest, this Ravasaur mount is very ugly and unremarkable. if someone rides past on a wintersaber, its obvious. I wouldn't even notice someone riding past on this.

Comment by 305343

i thought that it was pretty cool watching your venomhide hatchling growing up. i felt connect with it by the time i got the mount :D

Comment by Bangbangbang

I was wondering, if you get this as horde, and then use race change into alliance, will you get the tiger or keep the raptor?

Comment by 423205

does this mount give a 60% speed increase or a 100% increase? i wanna know cuz if its 60 im not even gonna bother doing it

Comment by 537673

I got mine today. It's funny, but I felt really excited, when I got up this morning :)

Getting the mount is not that hard. You only have to be patient and do your 20 quests.
The quests itself take only 10-15 minutes and are really easy. Anyone can find the time to do them.

Personally, I think that Blizzard found a nice way to make a mount special, without asking
too much of the players.

There is no way that the no-lifes are going to beat you, by grinding 27/7 for a week.
I red that some people got their Wintersping Frostsabre this way, in about 7 days. These kind of
things can really $%^& me off sometimes. Normal people with jobs just can't compete with
those idiots. It can really ruin the game experience sometimes. But this approuch sets things
straight for once ;-)

I'm really happy with my new mount! :-)

Comment by weezersound

Guess you cant go get this pet and then change race :F

Comment by fizbyn

Since the hatchling only gives you one quest a day and therefore one tooth a day, it will take 20 days to get this mount.

Thats pretty F'ed up for alliance! How long does it take to get to exhaulted with Frostwind so you can buy a saber. I S* longer than 20 days if you only do one quest a day like this horde version requires.

Comment by 314300

Question, what happens if someone does this quest then faction changes to alliance? will he/she keep the mount or will it be replaced with the tiger?

Comment by AmberD

I had some difficulty getting poisoned, until I set my voidwalker to take the beatings and just auto attacked with my wand. I figured this may be of some help to the other casters out there. (50 lvl warlock.) I spent over an hour killing them by accident ...and finished the quest in under five minutes using this method.

Comment by 259431

I recommend getting this mount when you're a tauren. Makes you bigger than ever!

Comment by Allakhazam

im gonna get this mount it aawsome

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Use: Teaches you how to summon this mount. This is a very fast mount.
Summons and dismisses a rideable Venomhide Ravasaur. This is a very fast mount.

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