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Comment by 227538

I was lucky enough to get one of the Brewfest mounts, but I also know a lot of people who didn't. If the Proto-Drake wasn't a 310% mount the luck element might be bearable, but it's the sort of thing that very few people will pass up the chance to get. As it is there's little more to do than hope you get it; the only consolation is that the Proto-Drake won't be attainable until Brewfest next year anyway, which means that even having to wait for next year wouldn't be so bad.

Comment by 232628

Well, Blizz says they're not going to change the requirement for this achievement, they're happy with it the way it is.

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We have no plans to change this achievement or remove it from the meta achievement. The drop rates were adjusted from last year to be more forgiving, so third-party data concerning the drop rate isn't accurate. A Mask For All Occasions was far, far less likely to complete within Hallow's End than Sinister Calling; the latter is reasonable enough to remain within Hallowed Be Thy Name.

Comment by Idanian

I've run this 20 times before today. I've seen 3 pets and 2 helms... Which to me is an increase on the pet drop rate. However, the helm seems to have dropped less based on last year's experiences... Still no mount though.

I'm just down to this and the Toothpick achievement for the title. (An average of 30 possible packages and nothing. Meanwhile my lv. 1 shaman has over 60 toothpicks and a flawless grin.)

When in doubt, though, get some guildies and "buy out" their roll for the stuff...

Comment by 125087

in the first 3 kills 2 helms dropped.

40-50 kills total now, no horse, no more helms, no pet, and only 4 brooms, nor the plate helmet.

Comment by 125087

I wish the game would be smart and NOT drop a ring EVERYbody already has. tired of seeing

you have automaticly passed on
person 1 has auctomacitly passed on because they already have it
person 2 " "
person 3 " "
person 4 " "
Everybody has passed on

Comment by Starkie

I just got finished with a run, and the 2nd to last summon, the pet dropped, which I was lucky enough to win the roll on, the last summon, the helm dropped, which I was un-lucky enough to not win, but oh well, still two weeks to go. I think its honestly just a case of getting really, really lucky.

Comment by thycondrius

u can obatain the mini pet in the trick or threat bag. Today i have found it and i complete all the hallowed end fest achievement

Comment by 233721

I have some guildies who have been helping me get extra summons by us swapping out alts. Average 10-20 summons a night. Tonight will be our 4th night.

I've seen the mount 1. plate helm 6. hallowed helm 3. And the sword enough times that even a priest has it. But not yet to see the pet.

The best rule we've came up with is "These are no longer luxery items, they are quest items. If your not going for it, you cannot roll for it."

Blizzard honestly goofed on this one regardless of what they think, if average of 3/5 people wanted the pet and assuming a 2.5% drop rate. In theory that would be 120 summons by the same 5 people for everyone to acquire it. Or 24 days worth of 5 summons if that was all you were allowed. Last I checked there's only 16 days of hollows end.

Comment by 233787

A fantastic method of completing the achievement. Me and 3 friends went in this afternoon and rotated random 65's in for their summons. In three hours we had Sinister Squashling X4, Hallowed Helm X1 and 3 swords. Oh and all the 65's got their epic rings as promised.

Comment by 178420

The Sinister Squashling and Hallowed Helm now drop from trick or treat bags given by innkeepers. High drop rate supposedly.

Comment by 2OfDiamonds

This might cheer you up!

I just pulled my sinister squashling out of a treat bag I got handed by an inn keeper for trick or treating.

FLEX!

I just got a helm out of a treat bag.

I already had one.

http://img72.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot102208101007rn6.jpg

And a blue response: Q u o t e:
I'll go ahead and put the speculation to rest by confirming that this change is indeed legitimate. ;)

Have fun you guys, this brought a smile to my face at least.

<3

Comment by 233876

i just got mine from the squash the pumpkin

Comment by 130170

both the Hallowed Helm and Sinister Squashling can now be looted from trick or treating innkeepers. I believe this is a hotfix from 22/10 (or 10/21 for US I guess)

Comment by 234165

The helm dropped 3times the same day for me. n the pet has sofar dropped twice for me. tho on different toons so i don´t have the quest completed yet :(.
With that said i think the droprate is better then u´d think.

Comment by 3207

Just verifying that they do actually come out of treat bags as well. I saw a level 5 yesterday with one . I was rather aggravated...

Comment by kuonji

I have been trick-or-treating as often as I can since the hotfix. I'd say at least 15 times. Neither have dropped for me yet. At this rate, I believe I'll complete the masks achievement before the sinister calling achievement.

Comment by chilichump

I have done atleast 9 HH's per day, 5-6 trick or treats per day, and the "put out the fires" daily every day... I've seen maybe 5 squashling drop in all of that time.

9x9 = 81 attempts on HH (at least, probably closer to 100 total attempts)

so we're looking at a maximum of a 5% drop chance. The helm, I've seen 8-10 of since I got one from a trick or treat bag.

I've got 5 days left to get this done, and I don't like my chances. This shouldn't be such a hard thing to do, the drop rate should be closer to 25%, so that you've got at least a 1 in 5 chance of getting 1 every day.

Comment by Starkie

Alright, I have to share this experience with all of you, because it has to be by far the funniest thing I've ever had happen to me.

One of the first runs of this year, I happened to get the pet, and my best friend, on his own run, but near the beginning of the event, got the hallowed helm.

Now, since that time, we've both been trying our damnedest to get the other one, each day running and failing, on our own. But today, we finally decided, that maybe we'd have better luck running it together, so we did.

The first 3 kills, no luck, whatever, whats new. But on the 4th kill, low and behold, the hallowed helm drops! I am so stoked, I need, and everyone else passes! Bam, its mine, and so is the achievement, and so is the title (Once they remove the mask one). Excited, I proceed to summon the 5th and final fight, we kill him, and what do our eyes see? but the pet! So, my friend nearly @#$%ing his pants, needs, and everyone else PASSES.

I can not believe that just happened.

Thought you might all enjoy that story.

Comment by 236832

Well it's defenitly do-able. i got mine pet today. i were lucky got the helm + broom on the very first day. But i killed the headlesshorseman like 40 times. Today i saw the pet drop for the very first time. i needed , it was an group with all friends so they gave it to me for the tittle.

So guys you have to work for it. it may be an hard achievment. if you guys want an easy tittle go get the "jenkins" tittle

Comment by shohanu

people are saying this is gonna be one of the most difficult achievements to get cuz of low drop rate and stuff. but considering hallows end is like 2 weeks long u can trick or treat once an hour and u can get both these items from the bag (however small the chance is) it shouldnt be too difficult. 3 loots a day should get u it but some people might get lucky.I just started again after losing my 70 and happened to get the helm 2nd trick or treat and the squashling 3rd but my friend got helm 2nd squashling like 30th so its all luck just keep trying youll get it

Comment by Yttrium

Is it possible for me to delete my Hallowed Helm after I have the achievement? I have a severe lack of bag and bankspace as it is and I don't want an item that I will never wear.

Comment by Arikara

I hate the squashling... two and a half years bck i wanted it, killed HH nearly everyday for the time of the world event. Didnt get!
one and a half year bck... i still wanted it, but this time badder due to achievement. did i get it? nope. did every achievement but this (i got the helm, ofc) except A mask for Every Occasion.
a half year out the future: i stand in SM at 00:01 shouting GIVE ME MY SQUASHLING, HORSEMAN!

Comment by Thakor

This is the most idiotic achievement in history, and should not be part of the meta. You are required to get 2 items that have impossibly low drop rates, and not only that, if they do drop, you have to win the roll against 4 other people, meaning that however low the drop rate is, your chance realistically of getting it is going to be 20% of that. Ridiculous. Even if they drop from treat bags, myself and my friends who participated in the halloween event this past year were unable to get both drops no matter how hard we tried. One of my friends ran the horseman 5+ times a day the entire event and never even saw the pet drop and he also trick or treated nearly every time his cd was up. This is by far the most unforgiving and impossible achievement for the meta.

Comment by Haxan

This achivement gives me nightmares. I have done Hallows End for two years, killed Headless Horseman almost every day and never got the Sinister Squashling. And the droprate for it seems awfully low. Because of this I didnt complete this achivement last year. Blizzard must increse the droprate, both from the boss or from the bags or this will be as terrible as the "Be Mine" - achivement during Love is in the air.

Comment by 240801

Trading head to some other person after you get it doesnt work for achievement,friend traded me hallowed head and i didnt get credit for my achievement,so you need to loot it or to win in on roll if it drops from headless horseman!
Good luck with drops,but it seems that blizzard has inscreased chance since we saw 2 pets and 1 head droped from our very first run this year :)
Drop chance on pet seems to be very very high,2 runs 5 pet drops

Comment by 111622

You won't get credit through Trading.

Comment by 49893

You CAN get credit through trading. I was traded the helm earlier tonite by someone who already had credit but mistakenly won the helm.

Initially I did not get credit towards the achievement. However, after going through a loading screen, I was given credit - the helm is not soulbound to me yet so I could conceivably trade it to someone else as well.

IT DOES WORK. Just go through a loading screen to do it.

Comment by 303016

Contrary to the aforementioned unfortunate luck of many of you, I managed to have the Helm drop within my first day's set of runs. Only needing this as I had the pet from last year, I rolled and I won.

I can understand why so many you are frustrated at having to fight the dreaded RNG to finish this achievement and earn the Violet Proto; been there, done that (and I suffer from Anxiety too, ouch). That said, you don't want to trivialize something you work so hard for, no matter how desperately you want it, otherwise it loses it's special nature.

Take it from someone who's completed the grand meta, it's so worth earning this the right way. Give it your all and you will get it.

Good luck!

Comment by Cirayne

I just got both the Sinister Squashing and Hallowed Helm from a Crudely Wrapped Gift.

You get that from doing the daily put out the fire at the starting towns, IE Goldshire, Kharanos, and Azure Watch (For Alliance), and smash the pumpkin from the Headless Horseman.

Hope this helps.

Comment by 471454

Pretty freakin lame blizz is making this achievement required for the title. Considering it is based on luck and we have no control over acquiring the items. They should increase the drop rates or make them purchasable items with the otherwise useless pumpkin treats. Ive alrdy got 95% of the achievs for title, but im concerned about this last one....

Comment by rkaycom

If you have the item traded to you and keep it, will the other person lose the achievement when they relog?

Edit: Its just that the way I see it, the person that keeps the item gets the achievement, not the one that wins the roll, what if it was on master loot? There wouldn't be a roll...

Comment by 438654

Just got one out of a treat bag - was extremely excited when I saw this. Just keep trying any way you can - you'll eventually get it.

Comment by 473043

Last night we looted the helm and traded it to all 5 people in the group.
Went out the instance and back in, on the achievement tab it turned Green.
But when i logged in this morning it was gone again.

I dont know if we should have relogged while having the helm equipped (didnt try that).
And I also dont know what happens when y already have the pet.

Comment by Sithicus

So I've lost the roll on the Squashling 3 times and can't seem to get it out of a Treat Bag. Granted it's still very early in the event and there's plenty of time to try and get one...problem is when my entire meta is riding on the luck of getting it (literally ....everything is done except Sinister Calling), it's making the event stressful and not fun at all. Didn't Blizz say at one point that they wanted to remove any random drops from the meta completely? I'm pretty sure that's why they removed Perma Peddle...I know I'm just being qq here but it still sucks...seriously ..an entire years worth of work riding on dumb luck. :\

Comment by 381520

Blahalbalbab it seems is doesnt work.... i thought it would as that dude bought it from me for 300g but nvm then lol

Comment by Hairband

Is there any objective way to tell how often both items, Sinister Squashling pet and Hallowed Helm drop from their respective sources (pumpkin smash daily, trick or treat hourly treat bags, or daily Headless Horseman summon)? Thanks.

Comment by highwind123

Is this "hallowed helm" really in game ?

I killed the hhm ~50 times last year and ~10 times this year.
I got TWO hhm mounts out of him.
I used the trick or treat option at the inkeeper probably about 100 times last year and this year.
I got probably about 20 pets.

And guess what... the hallowed helm achievment is the ONLY thing which stands between my warrior alt and my 310% mount. nice rng blizzard, really nice rng.

Comment by 77705

I don't know what the hell everyone else is talking about when they said trading it works. This is what happened to me.

Some stupid ******* rolled on the helm by mistake (didn't need it and didn't mean to roll on it) and won it, auto looted it, then traded it to me.

I don't get credit because I didn't loot it. All I need is that ****ing Hallowed Helm. I got screwed because of someone else's mistake and Blizzards ****ing flawed system....

Comment by Ooglepants

This seems to be the hardest (or most luck intensive) part of the achievement. I have been doing the daily and have NEVER seen the helm drop. 2 characters, 10 times a day (almost every day thus far) and trick or treated 10-15 times. I'm hoping that since I've gotten everything BUT the helm, the gods of blizzard will somehow increase my chances of getting it. The pet seems to be a much higher drop rate - to the point that I have gotten two by accident on my characters. Best of luck, but certainly I am getting slightly anxious at this point on seeing it drop.

Comment by 475909

In case you havent seen this blue post

We wanted to take a moment to clarify how the Sinister Calling achievement works for Hallow’s End. The text says that both a Hallowed Helm and a Sinister Squashling pet need to be “obtained” for the achievement to be complete. More specifically, the pet needs to be learned and become part of your pet spell book for that part to be complete. The Hallowed Helm on the other hand needs to be looted by the character to fulfill that aspect of the achievement.

We apologize for any confusion in this matter and hope you enjoy the rest of Hallow’s End!

The trading techinc work like a charm for me. Another person looted the helm (won the roll) and he traded it back to me. At first i didnt got the achivement BUT after getting out of SM it popped green. (havent got the pet yet from sinister calling).

Strange thing is a guildie tried to do the same yesterday but didnt earned credit for the achivement. (maybe he did something wrong dunno).

Anyway hoping for the pet to drop for me real soon :)

Comment by Llethalas

Just a heads up for those who didn't find it clear in the above posts. YOU CANNOT GET ACHIEVEMENT CREDIT FOR THIS IF YOU TRADE FOR EITHER ITEM. YOU MUST LOOT BOTH PERSONALLY FROM EITHER TREAT BAGS OR Mr. HORSEMAN. Ok sorry for caps, but I wanted to clear this up since I saw conflicting posts about this above. I tried trading a party member for it and zoned back to Dalaran and still no achievement credit. Hope this helps.

Comment by 343516

i must be extremely lucky. i got my sinister squashling at my very first run at headless horsman!
still i miss the helm lol

Comment by 473940

you know the truth is that im not afraid to work for an achievement, the feeling of accomplishment is a great one. i still have to agree though this drop rate is sad.

my wife and i have killed the horsemen everyday, we are at 30 - 35 kills and ive only seen the Helm drop 2 times (i dont even care if i get the mount right now). fortunately for us we have only gone with guild members and that has given us a better chance, if we were in random groups who knows if we both would ever get the pet and helm. (she finally finished her Meta last night when the pet dropped). im still waiting, while im at work she is trick or treating for me every waking hour on the hour. still nothing...

if blizzard is so determined to make this apart of the Meta why not change it to obtain the pet OR the helm, and if you happen to get both drops then have an achievement for that just not a requirement to finish the Meta. agree?

it sucks to know that like most others, i finished all the achievements in the first couple of days. (with the exception of some glitch candy buckets) there is a chance that i wont get this title this year.

Comment by 476730

I've had a guildie who has gotten the pet eight times. Blizzard should make the pet b.o.e. I even tried writing a ticket to see if they could move the pet I got on a toon last year that I never use now to my main.

Comment by 477977

I dont know about the everyone else but i am getting sick and tired of blizz makeing achivments only realy close to doableif you are a high level, the laugth is it seems complete random even if you can get trick or treat.
Ofcouse this would be a good opatunity for blizz to reward good manners if are youare polite and friendly to the inn keeperby rewarding with a treat punching them with a trick for bad manners.
Then maybe they might try it with the healer class and find more of us willing to help, as I am defently sick coments
when in a party like priest come :(

Comment by 478293

Countless hours, toons, dings, achievements, guilds and good times..... and after it all, it's going to be this ridiculous Squashling that turns me off this game for good. lol/sigh

Comment by Animalistic

heck, i think they musta fixed it... just got the pet and learnt it, and a party-mate got the helm and traded it to me.. no achievement. Relogged and didn't get it either. Have been moving about through different zones, no achievement.

Comment by 478771

On my level 30 Warlock, every hour I would hearth, get trick/treat, vendor items and get repairs. Doing that, I got both the helm and the pet within a week of the event beginning. Last year I got 2 helms and one pet. This is available for any level.

Comment by lufebr

Guys,

The Sinister Calling achievement is totally unfair to be considered mandatory for the meta achievement.
The probability of getting the items are very very low. Even if you play 24 hours per day, every day during the 2 weeks of event, you still have a chance of not getting the achievement at all.

Im my case: I play wow every day, and i'm doing everything that i can to get the achievement: Since the first day, I'm getting a bag from the innerkeper every hour i play, i'm doing the daily every day, and i'm also killing the boss every day.

To improve my chances, I begged for help, and my friends are now doing everything they can to help me too. So, i'm killing the boss about 8 times a day (with no competition for the helm, if it drops, its mine), and I'm also getting 1 bag every hour even when i'm working.

The result: After 12 days doing all that, I got dozens of Sinister Squashlings, and 16 different masks. Still, no single Hallowed Helm yet.

Of course I've been unlucky.... but.. should all that effort be worth nothing? Should this achievement be so impossible?
In 2 days the event will end, and my chances are getting shorter...

One year acomplishing every world event.. and I may have to wait for one more year to get the 310% mount, just because one of the achievements is lucky based, with a really low drop rate.

In my oppinion, Blizzard should consider the drop rate a bug, and make this achievement, and all other lucky based ones, not required for the mount.

Blizzard, please fix the Sinister Calling.

Comment by 442454

Well, there's always next halloween... right?
*begins a mad little giggle as left eyelid begins to twitch*
RIGHT!

damn you, squashling.
damn you.

-.-

Comment by Thundurstar

It was the only thing I needed last year.... now it is also the only thing I need next year. Saw it drop 2 times, lost both rolls. Never got it from trick-or-treating. So upsetting.

Comment by Thundurstar

Take this out blizzard! As soon as it's out. Send me my drake because im officially done. :(

Comment by Samphis

After an extremely frustrating experience of attempting every day for the summon, and every hour for the trick or treat, and not getting the pet, but having gotten (and gotten credit for) the helm, I just noticed both in-game and on the armory no longer having credit for the helm, yet I still have it in my bank. I hope this means that the achievement is being retuned into a vendor-style holiday item like Noblegarden was. I really don't want to be one random piece of loot away from my proto drake AGAIN.

Comment by Lutenantj

i am saying from experience that if you do not get both the pet and the helm in the same year, it resets the achievement (i was like WTF?)
i got the helm, not the pet
the pet did drop multiple times for me, but i had bad luck
have fun!

Comment by stchristopher

Same bug in WotlK classic. I have both from 2021, but only the pet shows complete in the achieve. I had the Hallowed Helm in the bank, took it out and into my bag, nothing. I equipped it, still nothing. Guess it has to drop from the HH again this year. No big deal. As I remember, it's pretty common.

Comment by KuehNcheN

In 2023 there now seems to be abug because the Pet Journal was introduced. I do not have the achievment on any charakter, got the Pet (1/1) today on my Main and now afterwards both in one bag on my Alt. In the Achievment only the Helm is checked the Pet is still grey, although I have one in my Journal as well as one (unuseable because I allready got 1/1) in my begs. Summoning oine does not change it.

Comment by Emptyc

Today it is impossible to get this bug if you already have this pet in the collection. Blizzard broke the receipt of this achievement. Sent a request to support. Waiting for an answer.

I attach a video with a bug.

Comment by Stickcorporation

I have had this solved via a GM in Wrath Classic - October 25th 2023:

I have posted my ticket conversation here:
https://imgur.com/a/9nTMVx3

I have also hidden my IRL name for privacy. I hope this helps anyone else who are stuck on this achievement in 2023, wrath classic.

In short, my lvl 80 alt warrior had already learned the pet and as pets are now account wide in wrath classic I couldn't learn it on my main paladin to get the achievement credited. This has been resolved as seen in my imgur.com link.

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