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Comment by Tolarian

I believe this achievement is asking us to juggle 40 of these: https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/item=34599 , which is very easy to do. Just put the torches on your action bar, target the ground underneath you, and spam the button. Instant achievement!

Reminder: You need to be in Dalaran.

Comment by mekanikos

Too early to actually make guesses, but those of us who've completed the Higher Learning achievement will have a safe, quiet spot to juggle torches; inside http://www.wowwiki.com/Archmage_Vargoth%27s_Retreat

Comment by 149397

I sure hope so, last years torch daily was practically undoable if you don't have a sub-200ms latency. : /

Comment by SJPadbury

Wouldn't the global cooldown get in the way of this?

Comment by 97657

Maybe it's the same as last year, where you toss a torch in the air, catch and toss it again. Keep the routine up for 15 seconds, and rinse and repeat it 39 more times?

Sounds like it's going to take som time, if this is the way it's going to work out :O

Comment by Knoxpwns

that would mean they would want you juggling for a straight 10 minutes. I'm doubtful of that scenario, but I think we wont really know until the time comes.

Comment by 172500

I guess none of you bought these torches last year.

They are targetable where they are thrown, when you "catch" one it creates a new torch in your inventory, and these cause no GCD. This achievement will be simple and only require a minimum of 20 torches (ballpark estimate).

Comment by anthem47

I logged onto an old alt today and realised she still had a stack of these torches...which is weird, they're supposed to disappear when you log out, but I literally hadn't been on that alt since the last Midsummer. Not sure how it happened but she had a stack with 10 min duration that wouldn't count down and they didn't say 'conjured', so I got the achievement on her and then mailed them to my main =D

...then I made the mistake of trying on my DK, forgetting you have to have done the learn to juggle quest. He dropped them all. QQ

I'm really not sure how they stuck around though?
You can see the achievement on Anjelina and Jackdemenzes (my main) on Proudmoore US.

Comment by Zythyx

Make sure you are in Dalaran to do it - yea, me and all my mates made that mistake as well ;)

Comment by Anachon

the torches are not soulbound so u can sell them, just got myself 30g for them^^
i can also confirm the infos above. just stand in dalaran, put the torches on your keys, aim the ground under your feet and keep spamming the button

Comment by Xiu7

I just did this achievement by myself. I used 10 torches and just put the torches on my bars and hovered my mouse over myself and hit the key and clicked a bunch of times. The torches in my inventory went to 0 a couple times so you could get it a little quicker with more than 10 torches. I also tracked the achievement to make sure the counter went up for it.

Comment by 286371

1. Turn off all addons.
2. Put lowest resolution.
3. Turn all effects off or set to low.

This should work the problem of lagg in Dalaran, at least it worked for me.

Comment by 144159

Don't bother about buying 40 of these, they return to your backpack when you catch them again, so 15-20 should be more than enough!

Comment by Stormbound

Just did this super easy achievement, here's how I went about it;

Step 1: Buy 10 torches from the vendor,
Step 2: Throw the stack of juggling torches on one of your keybinds,
Step 3: Point your camera downwards and hover your mouse over your character,
Step 4: Spam your keybound torches + left click
Step 5: ?
Step 6:Achievement.

Hope it helps.

Comment by rawrawra

I wouldn't waste the flowers on 15-20. I did it on my second try with only 10.

Comment by TheRazielim

One thing I noticed was don't just spam your keybind, because it'll cancel the targetting circle on some of them. I was trying with 9 (didn't wanna drop another 5 Blossoms) and kept coming up at 37-39/40 needed, because I was just spamming the key I bound them to. I slowed down a bit and made sure to do it in the order of:

keybind
mouse-click
keybind
mouse-click
keybind
mouse-click
etc

Worked first shot. Might not matter if you're trying with more, but for less (if you've been passing them off on your alts and some kinda got lost), try slowing it down a bit and it'll be fine.

Comment by 265012

Just confirmed that you can buy the torches on one toon and mail them to a diferent one, so if you are like me and dont care about achievements on more than one, this is the easiest way to get the torches

Comment by Dhazy

If you don't want to waste any flowers at all, do the beginning quests with your alts to get torches, then mail the torches to your desired character since they're not soulbound. ;)

Comment by 239749

The way to do Torch Juggler is by simply going to any Midsummer vendor and buy 15 torches (if you did the starter quest, you'll only have to buy 10 cause you'll have 5 handed to you).

Head to a nice, uncrowded spot in Dalaran where you won't be having major FPS loss. Bind the torches to your keyboard (in my case, 1 lol), and place the AoE marker right under yourself. Now just spam the hell out of your torches by spamming your key and clicking on the mouse. Don't move the mouse or your character.

Keep in mind that this makes it so that the torches go straight up into the sky and fall back onto you. The magic behind this is that the torches fall right on top of you and fall back into your inventory so you can keep spamming it. Don't worry if your torches go to 0 either, just keep clicking and spamming your torches and it should be a breeze. I got mind done in like 6 seconds lol >_>

Comment by 91394

You need to complete the Torch Catching quest to be able to purchase the the Juggling Torches from the Midsummer Merchant.

Comment by 65430

Learn to Juggle

Complete Torch Tossing and Torch Catching during the Midsummer Fire Festival.

About Juggling

You need 10 Juggling Torches if you want to complete this achievement. They disappear from your bags when you throw them and return when you catch them. A stack of five costs 5 flowers at the vendors in the major cities, though you can only buy them once you've learned to juggle.

To juggle, hotkey your torches, click beneath your feet, and repeat as fast as desired. For this achievement, that would mean as fast as you can.

Former Juggling Issues

Juggling Torches used to disappear like conjured items when you log out or go into arenas, but that has been fixed. They are permanent items.

If you can't get the achievement, make sure you're in Dalaran when you try it and make sure you have enough torches. 5 won't cut it. 10 is best.

Comment by 255615

You need to complete this quest and the follow up before you can buy the torches from the vendor.

Comment by 95724

If you have book The Schools of Arcane Magic - Mastery from the Higher Learning achievement, you can use it to teleport to Archmage Vargoth's Retreat and do your juggling there. I was the only player in the room and I had no lag.

Comment by Kar0t

Holy downrating, Batman!

I wonder why this achievement requires you to be in Dalaran, where they could just as easily made it so it has to be in any capital city, instead of the low-fps capital of the world of warcraft...qq...

Comment by Almaster

i can confirm what Nyoron said, it worked well with me.

Comment by 254283

If you're on a laptop it makes the achievement uber easy if you use both a mouse and your laptop-default mousebutton, and spam them both simultaneously.

Comment by 48128

If at the first set of ten torches you catch only receive credit for catching up nine you should change your location

I did fifteen tries where i did only get credit for nine torches the first ten torches i threw, as soon as i changed location the problem was solved

Comment by Kraan

I made this video so people understand fully what they need to do to get the Achievement. Hope it helps some of you out!

Comment by Inexorability

Track the achievement (shift-click it) so you can see how you're doing. If the timer runs out while you're juggling, don't stop! The timer resets as soon it runs out. You will catch the torches you've already tossed into the air but they will be added to the new timer's count, effectively giving you a few more seconds of tossing time.

Comment by brionl

I flew to the little strip of ground outside the walls of Dalaran and did it there. Practically zero lag, just do it like above. I had about 8 or 9 in the air at once, my torches were going between 20 and 11-12 in inventory.

Comment by Kazhirran

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AGMWPHNkv6E - Here is a video I used to get this Achievement done. Explains everything quite well.

Comment by 387035

haha omg, i saw you yesterday and i thought "WTF is that horde doing" now i know, freakin small world lmao, Thanks for the video it helped me a lot, i promise not to gank your alts :-D

-Flubsofdeath
Human Deathknight -Neptulon

Comment by davidcollantes

If I haven't done the second quest to teach how to juggle (I spent 2 hours trying to catch the four torches), can I still do this quest, or will the torches fall and shatter (even if I have followed the instructions explained herein)? Thank you.

Comment by Umega

I have done exactly what everyone has done: put juggling items in action bar and spam 1-click etc, the green circle was right on top of me all the time and I was in Dalaran, I used up all of my 40 torches. However I didn't get the achievement, I was not getting the items back and I didn't see the achievement counter for the jugglings go up. What did I do wrong?

Comment by Donaran

really nice thx !

Comment by 215071

Just point your cursor directly at your feet, put the torches on your action bar and spam the number on your keyboard associated with the torches while simultaniously clicking at your feet with the mouse with the other hand, takes a matter of seconds to get the achievment and you will end up with the exact number of torches you started with....can be done anywhere in Dal.

Wish I'd read this before doing the achievment. I bought 40 torches not realising that I would catch them all again and only needed 10 or so......
Left me 35 flowers short of buying the dancing flame thingy that I wanted :(

They sell for around 50 -100G for a stack of ten on AH on my server, so it's not a total loss. You can also mail them to your alts, saving you having to buy them again.

Comment by Stuckle

anthem47's comment was most useful to me! Put the torces in slot 1 then target under you and click and pres 1 until you get the achevement! Easy easy easy...Good luck everyone ;P hoped this helped!

Comment by Infiniti

You can't do it with 5 torches, but you can make it easily with 10.

Comment by gnorkthedark

i misunderstood this, thought you needed 40 torches. you only need one ^^

Comment by Kurion

It also looks like that you need to complete the torch tossing and catching quests just to be able to get the juggling acheivement. If you don't the torches will just fall to the ground and be wasted.

Comment by 273708

Flame Keeper Scourgelead is on Coilfang US.

Comment by corners

This is wrong. You can sit there and spam a bind and clicking the ground at the same time. I didn't lose one and i was tossing 10 at a time.

Also, you can do this with just one torch. You don't even need 5, or 10. Just one is fine. If you have more fine it goes by faster. Just don't spend any of your blossoms on them.

You also have had to have done the toss torching daily first.I think someone also said you might need the torch catching one but i haven't confirmed that.

Comment by coolguyry

Dumb question... I saw the video and all... but how do I make a macro so I can be able to do this?

Comment by Xrystal

Don't do what I did and go to the vendor and buy 40 torches. I read (Unique 40) so thought that was the required amount for the achievement. I believe you can do this with 10.

Comment by 191589

As stated in the guide for this event Dalarans lag can really mess you up. I would advise disabling all addons if you are having trouble

Comment by Ellixen

you can just throw the torches right on top of yourself, that's what i did and got the achievement no problem

Comment by Mantrhax

lol i Bough 30 torches just to be sure, and went to Archmage Vargoth's Retreat using The Schools of Arcane Magic - Mastery , whem i finished i still have the 30 torches in my backpack... lol

Easy > Torch Juggler

Comment by 337106

LOL at the above poster.

Comment by 118565

I found a G15 macro was the best way for me (with high ping) to do this :)
keypress, 50ms pause, mouseclick and have it on repeat!

Comment by Haxan

Why try with 10 torches when its much easier if you have 20. Omg, they arent that expensive...

Comment by 403690

Easy. You need to have keyboard key and mouse coordination as well as speed in order to get it done my way..lol
I did this with 10 torches only.
I binded the torches to number 1 and simply spammed that key while pressed the mouse button on the ground simultaneously. I spammed both buttons super fast..15secs later...bam! completed.
Good luck =)

Comment by mstrovis

NOTE: You have to have the Quest Torch Juggler completed in order to get this achivment not the daily just the first one only needing 4.

Comment by 368100

got 40 in my bag, find a nice place, and 1-> left click -> 1 -> left click, then i got achievement, and 38 in my bag....which means only used 2 of them...

Comment by Buttery

dunno bout you guys, but binding the torches to two keybinds allowed me to spam the lcick torches and get it easy, that made a huge diff, might help some of you guys get past the latency issue.

Comment by 370498

I bound the torches to mouse wheel down and I just spammed wheel down and left click - couldn't be any easier!

Edit: I scrolled the wheel down with my middle finger and left clicked with my index finger. Laptop users can also spam mouse wheel down on an external mouse and spam left click with your other hand on your laptop's built-in mouse.

Comment by peachtree

Be sure you have completed Torch Catching first, as you will be unable to catch the torches without completing it.

I've been doing these achievements on various characters and finally decided to do it on my main (I'm weird like that); went to dalaran with 15 torches I'd accumulated from my alts and was quite surprised to see them explode (ever so festively) on the floor at my feet.

Comment by 48165

Tried to complete this several times by alternating left clicks and the assigned keybind, and wasn't even hitting 30 in the time allotted.

Tried simply spamming mouse clicks and keybinds without any attention to properly alternating them, and got it first try. Just FYI for anyone who's trying to do the alternating method - apparently the number that gets canceled accidentally when just spamming weighs against the higher number of clicks you get in that way.

Also, make sure you keep the achievement tracker up if you're having several tries. It doesn't track a moving total over the past 15 seconds, but instead starts a 15 sec timer on the first torch you catch. Meaning if you know you're slow in the first couple of seconds, you're best off waiting for it to reset before trying again.

Comment by 261705

u get 5 torches per 5 blossoms. once u throw the torch and it lands back on u. it will go back into your inventory. dont be like me and buy 40 torches thinking that u will need to catch each one once.

Comment by stoise

just did it with 2 torches only :o
one more thing for those who failed at doing this achievement:
the name of the area above your minimap has to be 'Dalaran'!
you may be physicaly in Dalaran but if you are in some house or area which has its own name,you wont get the achievement
this reminds me the fishing daily quest Monsterbelly Appetite (needs to be in 'The Great Sea')

Comment by Obolon

Hello,

I know that it's almost two months before this holiday starts, but since it is the last holiday I have to complete before getting the Violet Proto Drake, I want to do my research in advance, so I don't miss out on it.

Let me explain... I work overseas on a very remote military post and have the absolute worst dialup internet connection known to man. Two cups and a string would give better bandwidth and lower latency than I have. I almost never have latency lower than 2000ms and it's always at least double in Dalaran, so this juggling achievement worries me. I have overcome every other tough holiday achievement that depends on low latency including Frenzied Firecracker and The Rocket's Red Glare for the Lunar Festival (I had to buy thousands of them and keep spamming for hours). I paid off someone with a lot of gold to help me with School of Hard Knocks during Children's Week. All year, this juggling act is the one that has been worrying me the most.

I see people complaining all the time when achievements are difficult or seem out of place, especially School of Hard Knocks, but if I could get through it with 10,000ms latency in Eye of the Storm and a dozen disconnects with a little hired help, then anyone can do it if they put their mind to it. I have no problem with Blizzard developing challenging quests and achievements.

My only problem is that even Blizzard knows that Dalaran has the worst latency problem of anywhere in the game outside of a 25 man raid. So I don't understand why an achievement that seems to require low latency would have been set in Dalaran. At least the fireworks could be done anywhere I wanted. People don't purchase their bandwidth from Blizzard, so can not be counted on to have the bandwidth and latency that Blizzard demands for some things. I mean, I am already resigned to the fact that I am simply not allowed to joust in the game, because you can't charge a target that isn't there anymore by the time your charge registers across the network.

So, basically, I just want to get some information that might help me out when the time comes.

First of all, once you learn to throw and catch the torches is it still possible to drop them or lose them?

I read that the achievement can be done even after the holiday is over if you still have torches. How long after the holiday is this possible? I will probably be throwing torches for days until I eventually, somehow, get a lucky burst of low latency for a few seconds.

With impossibly high latency is it better to have 10 torches and continue to spam the keyboard and mouse or is it better to have 40 and hope that somwhere along the line of lag that all 40 clicks go through at the same time and just spurt through all 40 throws in on go?

Thank you for any advice!

Comment by 619033

JitBit works, i was confused how to work it at first but i managed to figure it out, done it within seconds d=(^.^)z

Comment by 590502

I've been trying to do this the past half-hour nobody is getting the achievement in Dalaran, lol...

Comment by 619033

My arm almost fell off... I'd rather wank my wrist off than do this with just clicking it

Comment by Whiskas

Took me over 20 attempts but succeeded with 400+ ping in Dalaran. Ended up with a cramp in both my forearms and the stinkin' achievement...
Petition to add 5 seconds to the timer, just so high pingers don't have to go numb doing it!

EDIT: Worth to mention that i had 10 torches, alternated 2 and left-mouse, and did this left of the stairs to south bank.
High ping is due to distance, i play on a Russian server from USA.

Comment by smiley001

Is it me or did this achievement just became impossible in comparison to last year?

Last year I managed to complete this at a peak hour with roughly 170ms lag on my main - Now I'm repeating the exact same actions for my bankchar during off-hours with 67MS lag, yet I can't seem to make it go higher then 34-36...

Normally I'm very skilled at this kind of stuff, yet this constant failing at ~35 catches is starting to scratch my ego :(

I've tried setting the resolution and details lower, disabled all addons, tested "Use Hardware Cursor" and "Reduce Input Lag" both checked and unchecked... The only remarkable thing I noticed is that all of those different settings had absolutely no impact on the amount of torches caught :\

For moral reasons I'm not quite ready to cheat my way out of it using 3rd party macro'ing software... So theres anyone with an alternative idea?

Comment by 366963

Brother clicking mouse like a mad-man, I was pressing "1" like a mad-man. We were only getting between 33-37. Just as we were about to give up, "schwing" achievement! To all the comments previous saying this is easy ; I really didn't think it was at all!

Comment by 265896

As of 21st June 2010, this achievement has become much harder to get. I'm not entirely sure it's even possible to get it on your own anymore.

I tried for a long time throwing at myself while tracking the achievement, and always landed between 35-38, never the full 40. I eventually managed by grabbing someone in town and having both of us just spam-throw torches at each other for about a minute, and we both eventually got the achievement.

We also tried throwing all torches at one player for a while, but eventually ran out of torches due to being able to carry a maximum of 40, so this didn't work.

If you do it this way, make sure each of you only has 20 torches on you, and if for some reason you end up throwing them all at the same person you wont lose any excess.

Comment by Rimmer

I tried this for 20 minutes in the place you teleport to using the Higher Learning book. All I got was painful fingers.
Teleported back outside and did it first go.

Comment by 612538

This achiv can be tedious. I found the easiest way to do is hotkey to 1, put camera above ur character and have the achiv on track so you can see the timer. Start slowly the first time then towards the end of the timer spam the torches madly, the ones landing will count over to the next attempt.

Comment by Xantrius

I don't feel my hands right now.. but got my achievement at last..

Comment by sTyLnK

Got this at the very last second after mutliple and multiple tries. This is seriously a pain in the ass. Just have to spam away and hope to God you get on that last second. It helps if you turn the tracker on also so you can watch the time tick down and your juggling slowly go up.

.....And for the record I now have no hands. Not even sure how I'm typing this.

Comment by cryoflash

Always end up with 39/40 or so. -.- I tried to hotkey the torches to multiple keys: 1,2, -, even wheel down like someone here suggested. But no. I'm not even laggy, having disabled my addons and standing in a non-crowded place. Getting desperate and my hands are turning into jelly.

Comment by 589531

This isnt Ez, anymore i believe i remember getting this super ez last year on my dk. it seems harder

Comment by Pinkitteh

I took 15 torches out of the guild bank from my main doing it last year, and tossed them into the sky (targeting just undermyself offcourse...) *looks up puzzled at the sky* they don't appear to have come back down. :(

I guess you can't use them the next year. :(

Comment by Butterworth

Your macro didn't work for me, Nana.

I tried this achievement for about 2 hours last night, with various numbers of torches and in various places. I got fed up of ready 'it's easy' comments all over the web so I gave up for the night and tried again today and managed it. This is not an easy achievement guys, if you're having trouble, don't sweat it, take a break and try again later when your latency may be lower or your arms less sore and your mind less stressed! Good luck! <3

Comment by 114098

What i did was juggle my torches at the beer garden,or also known as the 2nd inn.I kept missing out the achievement by 2-3torches.So i decided to alt-z hide all interface and click away. Done in the first try

Comment by LoKHor

All I can say is: don't spam and click. Get 15 and alternate accurately between hitting the button and clicking. I wasted about 30 mins trying to do it and coming up short each time, then I slowed down and made sure to alternate. BAM, first try.

Comment by 110266

Been trying to get this for two hours now... I did it easily last year, but now it simply seems to be impossible! I have no idea what's changed since then, but something definitely has.

Comment by The013

Windows users can also use MouseKeys (accessibility functions) and map mouse click to Numpad 5 button.

Comment by MrBang

This is by far the hardest thing I have ever had to do in this game. I used a brand new mouse. I used my old mouse. I almost went and bought a mouse that would accept macros (as suggested above). I'm not sure if it has become more difficult, or I am just really bad at it. One poster above said they did it in 6 seconds. I can not see how this is possible, but if it is true then I am amazed.

I used some of the tips above to help me. I got 15 torches. I bound them to my 1, 2, 3, and 4 keys. I got my view pointed straight down and my target circle centered on my character. I then turned my mouse SIDEWAYS and TAPED IT DOWN with packaging tape. Then I literally hammered my left mouse button with my index and middle fingers of my right hand while wildly mashing the 1-4 keys with the fingers of my left hand, the whole time watching the on-screen counter (from "tracking" the achievment). I kept getting the "that item is not ready yet" warning but I kept destroying my mouse and keyboard until I got it. About 3 or 4 tries (not including the 20 or so attempts before I taped the mouse down).

It might have been easier if I could have rebound my left click to a key on my keyboard, but unfortunately the left and right clicks are about the only thing you can't rebind (or alternate bind) in the game.

It is really sad that Blizzard made this such a coordination issue (left hand, right hand, click-click-click). I know several senior citizens who play WoW, and some handicapped players. They will never be able to get this achievement (and subsequently their Long, Strange Trip mount) without finding someone to physically do it for them. Boo.

*EDIT* I never thought of using Windows built-in functions to rebind the mouse buttons (see last post above mine). I have all those completely disabled by default since Windows has an annoying habit of trying to tell me to use them when I don't want to use them.

Comment by xanderhunter

One thing I learned from some other game, if you turn on MouseKeys (Alt+Shift+NumLock for Windows XP) and put your torches binded to 5, you can spam 5 on your NumPad and on the regular spot to do this easier.

Comment by 619418

Here's something that might help you guys with this achievement...

1. Go to the floating island thing east of Dalaran with 15-20 torches (10 is too little)
2. Stay on your flying mount, go about 50 yd from the ground.
3. Press your Juggling Torch keybind and leave the targeting circle on.
4. Slowly descend until the targeting circle turns green.
5. Dismount and spam away; the torches are slower than your falling speed so you'll catch them before they hit the ground...
6. You'll take about 10-11k fall damage so heal up before you try this.

Good luck! :)

And as an extra note to classes with a slowfall ability; you will lose torches if you throw torches more than 20yd high they will hit the ground before you. It's a lot easier to just not use any slow falling ability and just take the 10-11k damage

Comment by 248959

The reason all the people last year are saying it was easy, because it was back then, cos it used to be within 20 seconds.

Now it's been reduced to 15 seconds... which is utterly stupid, as it makes this achievement a button spamming, luck based, latency based, pain in the finger...

Comment by Trelani10

I just got this achievement due to a tremendous amount of luck. I had 20 torches went to dalaran just by the inn in the middle of the city and spammed away. I had no luck for a while then bam it worked. I had less than a second on the timer. GL on this one.

Comment by 619430

Yes, this achievement is horrible! Not to mention, speeding up the onset of Carpel Tunnel. That said, I went to the Purple Parlor in Dalaran, out on the balcony overlooking the city and somehow managed to complete this as the 40th torch was caught as the 15sec mark ticked and just before breaking my wrist. Latency was surprisingly low.

Comment by 375446

Having a hard time i have no lag what so ever i can only get up to 37 i even put em on 2 keybinds no luck all i get is "item is not ready yet" am i going to fast?

Comment by WallyWest

There's a difference between lag and latency. Latency is what you see on the screen listed in ms. That's similar to ping times. It's a measure of how fast your computer and the server are talking to each other. Lag is when the server itself slows down for whatever reason. You can't do anything about that and it has nothing to do with your internet connection.

If you're experiencing any noticeable lag this achievement is impossible. You'll see it in things like looting mobs you just killed, opening your mail, etc... If you're seeing that then just give up and try again later. Otherwise move as far away as you can from other players. The grassy corners of the city are good.

I found that trying to stay slow enough to eliminate the "item not ready" message didn't work. There's no skill involved here, just hammer the keys. Alternate between the bound key and your mouse button, but do it as fast as you possibly can and ignore the item not ready message. If it fails don't stop and wait to start over just keep going. You'll get it eventually.

This is a stupid achievement.

Comment by 375446

I'm still at it,, been a few hours now and this is all I need for mount. I have 2 weeks to get it done this is just plain ridiculous any more suggestions ?

Comment by Xenomech

Has anyone thought to try having multiple players throw torches at one person? The counter for the achievement (which I managed to get solo after a lot of work) appears to increment when you catch the torch. Since you can catch torches thrown by others, maybe this achievement becomes absurdly easy with at least one other player helping?

Comment by 518086

Ok guys..

I just completed this achievement on my second attempt. Its really not that hard.

1.Track the achievement.
2.Assign the torches to the first key in your action bar (like this). http://yfrog.com/eanewpkj
3.Now position your camera directly above you.
4.Press 1 and make sure your character is stood in the centre of the green circle.
5. Click your mouse to start the juggle and spam both your 1 button and your mouse together while keeping an eye on your progress while the achievement is tracked.

Hopefully if you spammed your heart out the achievement should pop and you will be that much closer to completing
The Flame Keeper Achievement.

Good luck guys, I hope this helps.

Comment by 576252

For anybody having problems with this, look at socrates's comment about the macro program. worked perfectly & doesn't require hurting yourself. quick and easy.

Comment by Ashgiver

OK, so I failed a billion times on this but finally got it.

The way I did it was I:

1) Turned off all my Addons
2) Set the resolution and everything in that category to the absolute minimum.
3) Set the torches on both 1 and 2 on my skill bar.
4) Found a nice corner in Dalaran where no one was and aimed my scren down at my character.
5) started of slowly to warm up
6) When I got used to the pattern of alternating between 1 and 2 together then click 1and 2 together click, I started to speed up.
7) While going at a fast pace but still calm in my chair, I would get about 36/40 at the most.
8) Then I pushed it to the limit mashing of my clicking abilities getting 38/40 about 5 times in a row.
9) Pushing and pushing the pace I finally got it just barely making the time limit.

I hope this helped.

Comment by pauladin

Drag the torches to 1 on your action bar.

Then edit your key bindings in the file:

WTF\Account\\\bindings-cache.wtf

And add the entry

bind 2 CAMERAORSELECTORMOVE

Then login and carefully mash 1 2 1 2 1...

It took me three cycles, of the 15 second timer, but it got it.

And you can't randomly mash; you have to do it 1,2,1,2,1,2...

Comment by ultimakage

Is there some secret to this I am just not getting? Spam clicks and buttons to throw at your feet right? Well I still only get to 34 torches in 15 seconds.

Comment by 79144

My personal solution to this one, plugged in an extra keyboard and mouse, and got the help of a friend to double the spammage. Got it first time doing this.

Comment by 407818

If you need Juggling Torches you can do the quest on your alts and send them to your main if you don't want to waste Blossoms.

Comment by 619578

I tried everything for this. Spamming, macro, everything. Always got to 32-36 range. Try putting on "Reduce Input Lag" in video settings. Worked wonders for me. I got it on my first try after that. Good luck, and try not to put yourself in a cast with this one!

Comment by Reika

No need to add binds in your cache or such. Just make a simple macro.

/script SetBinding("2","CAMERAORSELECTORMOVE")

Set "2" to whatever key you like. Torch on "1", macro on "2" works well. Drag onto the appropriate (IE, match the number with bar location) spot on your bar.

Then get to spamming. This worked for me with 400ms latency.

Comment by 42666

For any G15 keyboard users out there. I just did this achievement by using this simple macro I made.
-http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/1122/g15ahciev.jpg *Note "Q" was the key I put the torches on. Also you must make the repeat setting to "Toggle".
When you get the achievement, to make it stop quickly just press mode 2.

I was also in the area that this item brings you to for less latency https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/item=43824.
It took a few tries but it worked. Also in the macro anything less than .010 sec will make you disconnect.

Hope this helps.

Comment by 619591

WORKING METHOD

Me and a guildmate tried this for about an hour without any luck getting above 35.

Then we tried the one with the max range. First you throw torches on your mate and then on yourself so that they hit both you and your mate exactly the same time. But we didnt get that to work.

Then we tried out a finally working method.

Stand about 5 yards from each other. First you throw about 7-8 torches on yourself quickly and as soon as they hit you you start throwing them on your mate(which goes a lot quicker). I had 1 second left on my timer doing it like this and failing a million times on just spamming myself and hitting somewhere between 32-35 each try.

Good luck!

Comment by 274984

Took me a while too, but I finally got it.
For those of you having trouble with the lag in dalaran, try and head to the very outskirts of town. Hop on your flying mount and land on the edge of the dalaran "island", just on the other side of the main wall surrounding the city. That's where I got the achievement on my first try.
Make sure you're tracking the achievement too, since it has a timer and you know exactly how many torches you've juggled and how much time you have left.
I literally got the achievement with about 0.5 sec left on the clock.
Good luck guys.

Comment by 412367

Just a head up, I guess you can't do this achievement if you haven't done the juggling quests in the city. I had a stack of 40 left over from last year and tried to do it on a alt who hadn't done any of the quests and the torches just blow up on the ground. =(

Comment by mfrboga

From what I saw from my attempt of doing this achievement, it looks like the torches has an internal cooldown or something. When I did the rotation given, there were some torches that wasn't even casted at all in between the ones that were thrown. It would help to say that I didn't get any lag or latency issues as well.

Comment by sirrus86

I've read through all these posts, talked to some guildies and others on my server, and have determined that I've apparently got a very unique problem. At the time of writing this, I've devoted probably 4 hours straight to getting this achievement, using every method on this page, and have averaged about 25/40, my highest being 32/40.

First I'll start by stating what I HAVE done. I've created a macro that spams "/use Juggling Torch" and assigned it to two hotkeys (I started with one, but found more success with two). I've used the "/script SetBinding" trick so that I can push a nearby button rather than destroy my mouse. I've tried flying at the outskirts, then falling from the highest point possible while spamming the macros. I've tried the macros alone in both quiet AND busy areas (neither was much better than the other). In frustration, I went as far as to turn off all my addons, delete my WTF folder, turn all my video settings to the lowest setting, turn on "Reduce Input Lag", lower my resolution to the smallest setting, and even terminate as many of the other processes on my computer as I could followed by setting WoW's thread priority higher (and yes I restarted my computer a few times). Furthermore I disconnected my wireless router and directly connected my computer to my cable modem, followed by doing a tracert and ping to see if there were any latency problems whatsoever. During all of these changes, my framerate fluctuated accordingly between 30 and 90 fps, while my latency stayed around 100ms (the router had zero impact).

Now that that's out of the way, here's my technique. I have 30 torches. I've tried two methods, neither of which should theoretically be more efficient than the other. First I've figured out that if you stand on the boxes by the fisherman outside Violet Hold and aim the torches on the ground besides the boxes (yet close enough that you'd catch them) the torches will stay in the air for more than six seconds before you catch them. While this gives me a great head start, near the end I can't catch the torches fast enough. Second I've found that if you auto-run into a corner and aim the torches at one of the walls to the side, you'll basically throw and catch them almost instantaneously. No head start, but you catch them quickly. Either way I end up with around 25 when I'm done.

Here's why: if I throw between 5 or 6 torches in a short period of time, whether I've caught them or not, my character will not throw any more for about five full seconds.

Let me break it down... I throw torches 1, 2, and 3. I catch torch 1 and throw 4. I catch torch 2 and throw 5. I catch torch 3 and throw 6. Suddenly I'm spammed with "that item isn't ready yet" until after torches 4, 5, and 6 are caught. Only AFTER torch 6 is caught can I throw torch 7 and so on. With the quick method I can get to about torch 8 or 9 before this happens, but the pause will end up being longer.

The only two ideas I have are this: either there's a limit to how many torches you can throw at a time, and the game will make restrictions to enforce this limit, or my user interface is either refusing to cooperate or somehow overloading with input and crashing itself for a moment.

Finally, yes I've tested doing this slowly and in a controlled fashion. The error never kicked in, but being that I did it slowly I only wound up with like 20. Trying it a little faster, yet still controlled, the error kicked in as it has every other time, thus proving that with things as they are now I literally can't throw them fast enough without the interface stopping me.

So that's my problem. Suggestions?

Comment by 262076

Okay I don't know about anyone this year, but I can't seem to get this to work this year on a new 80. I did it on two separate characters last year without fail but this year the timer almost looks like it's busted or something. wtf is going on?

Comment by admielke

I think there might be a bug.
People keep telling me that the torches that are already up in the air count even if the timer hits 0.
Mine doesn't!
I get to 0 seconds with 34 or so and with 6 up in the air and the timer resets.

Comment by neogia

METHOD THAT WORKS WITHOUT CHEATING

So after about 30 mins, I figured out it's not how fast you click the targeting circle, it's how fast you can bring that circle up. I placed the stack of 15 torches in the first action bar slot and bound Mouse wheel up AND Mouse wheel down to that button.

Put both hands on the mouse: Right hand index finger scrolling the scroll wheel UP and DOWN, and the left hand index finger mashing the Left Click button. Worked first try.

Hope it helps.

Comment by Ancients

I was not able to do it with mouse clicks even at the tower all the way up in the air in dalaran. (135ms and 165fps)

I turn on the build-in windows keyboard mouse click macro with Alt-Shift-NumLock and bind my mouse left click to the number 5 on the keypad.

/cast Juggling Torch on my hotkey 1

spamming only my keyboard: 1 key + numlock 5 key

I got the achievement + my purple mount

Comment by 274253

Hello Everyone,

Here is my way for this achievement. Despite having ok-ish PC and quite stable connection (100 ms) I couldn't do this achievement. Despite of amazing spamming and even using the software to auto click every 10 ms I couldn't do it.

Then I realised that when I was steady clicking I did way better than with spamming. So my advise is:
1) Buy 10 torches
2) Move torches to your action bar with binded key
3) Start pressing the key + clicking. Don't Spam it! Start quite slowly and check how good you are doing - check how many torches reside in your inv while you are juggling. Speed up a little and check your progress. You should be going down to 1 - 2 torches in your inv during those 15 sec to get this achievement.

Good Luck with that. It took me 1.5 hours today and a lot of frustration to do it (after those 1.5 hours I tried the procedure I've described above and worked like a charm with normal settings, addons and in tavern). Just remember - dont spam! I've noticed that the more you spam the worse it gets ... smooth coordination of pressing bound key and clicking worked like a charm.

Comment by 173187

After averaging around 32 torches, i was about to give up. I tried all the advice given on here. What finally worked was using the /script SetBinding("2","CAMERAORSELECTORMOVE") method by setting the torch to my first and second button. Angle the screen to look downward and target yourself with the cursor on yourself. I could not do this during the day but i managed to easily do it around 4am server time with all my addons disabled and my settings as low as possible. I ran out of torches and had to wait a second to catch them again. My advice is, wait till night time to attempt this.

Comment by 590937

Probably repetitive at this point, but basically, if you're on a crowded server, it seems you HAVE to be a night owl to complete this quest. I tried at around 3:00 AM (server time) today and got it on the first try--after having tried about 50 times last night, at various times from 7:30 PM to 12:00 AM.

As I was hitting the buttons (I used the macro mentioned earlier , replacing 2 with = and continuing to use both hands), I was mainly keeping track of the number of torches in my inventory. Funnily enough, I never really used much more torches than when I failed previous times, so I wasn't hitting the buttons any faster. The only difference? Thanks to that little bit of a lesser strain on the server, the torches moved that much faster.

I never WoW in the daytime, so maybe the servers have quieter hours in the day, but considering this is the summertime and no one's in school... yeah.

Comment by ArtelQuessir

Beans said:

I had a copy of the book The Schools of Arcane Magic - Mastery https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/item=43824 that I received when I completed the Higher Learning achievement. (You know the achievement where you run all over Dalaran and look for those darn books to spawn, just so you can get the Kirin Tor Familiar non-combat pet. https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/item=44738) After using it to teleport to Archmage Vargoth's Retreat (which is located atop the spires of the Violet Citadel in Dalaran) I was able to easily get the achievement as there was zero lag for me in that room.

Best advice ever!

If you don't have the book yet, or have disposed of it, there is a portal in the Violet Citadel(it's on the right side, opposite the Caverns of Time portal). I was having the roughest time of it for some reason(likely because my net connection is wireless. However, I got up in there and got it after three tries without stopping.

I found it helps to get a rhythm going and to just keep going after the timer expires, as you end up with several torches still in the air as the timer ticks over and starts anew.

By doing this, I got a big head start on the timer, and finished with three seconds left.

Comment by 619495

to clarify the posts above, i posted this in the Juggling Torch comment page:

As for all the people having troubles doing this, only reaching up to 35-39 torches (a lot of people on my server have this issue, as do a lot of people on wow forums...)

Just found a working way for myself (after trying for at least one hour by simply spamming keybind + clicking)

I put down all my graphic settings to minimum (i got a monster machine, but hey, it still helps a bit, i suppose...), turned off all my addons and stood on the lower floor part of dalaran (outside the actual city) outside of violet hold.

Then i did this:

/script SetBinding("2", "CAMERAORSELECTORMOVE")
/script SetBinding("3", "CAMERAORSELECTORMOVE")

This will temporarilly bind a key (I picked 2 and 3 but you can use anything) to your mouse click until you log out.)
(note that afterwards you do have to rebind whatever is on these buttons)
I then made a macro:

/cast Juggling Torch
/cast Juggling Torch
/cast Juggling Torch
/cast Juggling Torch
/cast Juggling Torch
/cast Juggling Torch

and bound this to 7 on my keyboard (once again, can be anything, this was most comfortable for me)

I began spamming 2+3 (with my middle+index finger from my right hand) and spammed 7 with the indexfinger of my right hand.

After roughly 2 complete cycles (to start up the counter properly) i got it.

Comment by Kobzol

If you are having trouble doing this, just enable Reduce Input lag in Video settings

Comment by Serinia

I tried changing my video settings, using a macro, finding a secluded place in dal, using reduce lag option, disabling all my add ons, using another computer, using another internet source. If your on a high pop server your pretty much screwed. I had a 175 latency with like 60 fps and nothing I did would let me win on this quest. I petitioned a GM, and got a reply your ticket will be serviced soon for over 4 hours. I believe this quest has issues and some have just gotten lucky, either they are on lower pop servers, or can deal with getting up at 3-5am in order to do this quest. I woke up at 6am and the servers were already offline. This is the LAST quest for my mount, I have been working hard every festival to get everything done to find out the very last quest is holding me up go figure. Thanks blizz.

Comment by 619831

Okay so i spent the whole day trying to juggle these darn torches. Anyways i gave up and finished my extinguishing and honouring the flames of azeroth. Hearthed back to dalaran. had some of the Fiery Festival Brew. And tried again. Instantly i got it. Wasnt even spamming that crazy like i was all day.....so getting drunk=better torch juggling :D

- Flame Kepper Faeye

Comment by 309284

For those having trouble with the achievement (it's much harder this year due to being 15 seconds instead of 20):

1. Fly to the strip of land outside of Dalaran (it's right next to Krasus Landing).
2. Fly as high as possible but not at a height where you will fall to death.
3. Point your camera straight down, and have your cursor right where you will land.
4. Unmount, and while in air, spam the juggling torches. When you hit land, keep juggling.

The counter starts when you catch your first torch as opposed to when you throw it. By doing this, you will have 3-4 extra torches in the air at the start compared to doing it normally.

Comment by 619890

I used this method and got the achievement with no problem. Using the method of hotkeying the torches and looking at my feet, I used 2 hotkeys instead of 1. I didn't think this would work at first, but got it accomplished on the first go with 3 seconds to spare.

Comment by Bhaalgorn

If you don't have the book and everywhere is laggy/crowded,a nice lag-free area is to the left of krasus landing. And don't worry about the no fly zone,once you've completed your achievement just approach the landing site and you'll be able to mount up.

Comment by Amdoravel

the best way i found to complete this achievement was to make a script and macro...

type /script SetBinding("3", "CAMERAORSELECTORMOVE")
make sure u place ure mouse cursor under ure character
then make 2 macros with
/cast Juggling Torch
/cast Juggling Torch
/cast Juggling Torch
/cast Juggling Torch
/cast Juggling Torch
/cast Juggling Torch

place the macros as ure 4 and 5 keys.... then all u have to do is use ure right hand and spam 543 543 543 543 543 really easy and not so tiring

if u r left handed the opposite would work setting the macro to 1 and 2 keys and typing 123 123 123 123

Comment by Scotia

Super annoying, but able to be done without macros... if you're willing to have a bit of a sore wrist for a few moments. Bought 10 torches, hotkeyed the torch, and smacked the hotkey with one finger while rapid fire tapping the mouse button with a finger on my other hand. Don't hold the mouse. Hover your hand over it. Poster above who said what's important is not how many torches you can launch, but how quickly you can bring up the green targeting circle is correct. I spent more focus on rapidly tapping the mouse button than I did the hotkey, and I made it just under the wire.

Did this in the Dalaran underground near Cantrips and Crows.

Comment by 433576

To me this quest is about lag. I did the keybinding and the mouse click spam but never got above 36. Someone said to fly to one of the outlying floating islands and try it there to reduce the lag the city creates.
Did nothing different than fly to the island floating by the landing area and finished the quest on the first try.

Comment by 608503

You don't really need to mess around with script changes and macros and all that stuff. Keybind the torches and alternate using and throwing. You'll need to get a rhythm going and don't stop if you don't hit the achievement the first time. In fact, keeping them in the air when it reset should help.

So, this is what I did.

Track the achievement so you can gauge your speed.
One finger on keybind, one on mouse (duh)
Start slow, use keybind (1), then click with mouse (2)
Start speeding up, but have a short delay after you click the mouse before using keybind again
So instead of going 1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2, it's more like 1,2 - 1,2 - 1,2 - 1,2 - 1,2
Keep decreasing the pauses, and eventually you'll get it.

Comment by Mephidross

I have a G15 programmable keyboard and just finished this with about 4 seconds to spare, put the torches in my 2 key and the macro /script SetBinding("1","CAMERAORSELECTORMOVE") in my 1 key (not sure if that's how it's suppose to work but w/e it worked for me). Then I created the macro 12121212(rep about 10 times) for my G1 and spammed that... Was glorious after spending so long frustrating over mouse clicks and pressing 1. Completely worth skipping my dental appointment to figure out.

Comment by alllucky7s

I highly recommend using the Juggler addon, I did this first try at the mage shop in Dalaran (were you can buy Dalaran Brilliance or whatever it's called, etc.), which is a very small place with 0 people so FPS isn't a problem. If lag is a problem, try doing it when everyone's out raiding or at Wintergrasp; and if you've done the Higher Learning achievement try using the teleport book.

Guidelines: grab 5 torches at the vendor, so you have a total of 10 torches (you can buy 1 stack of 5 with 5 burning blossoms +5 from the juggling quest). Install the addon, go to Dalaran and type /juggler in chat. Set your cursor in the ground below your character and spam the mousewheel up or down until you get the achievement.

Comment by Serinia

This was the LAST achieve for my flying 310 mount, so I wanted to do whatever it took to get it done. This is pretty much over kill but you will get it no matter what.

Finally got this one...

This is what I did.

Set my alarm clock for 4am, woke up logged into wow, so much less dal lag at that time. again probably over kill but I wanted my achieve.

Disabled all addons,
I actually bought all 40 torches but I dont think its needed with this function
set graphics to lower settings,
enabled reduce lag option,
Flew to an island outside dalaran but still consider dal territory
Then setup keybinds 1,2 1 = torch 2 = clickof the mouse using previously recommended change to wtf file
Mount your fly mount fly up to the highest point where the aoe circle on the ground goes from red to green, then go back down a hair so its green.
START SPAMMING
you will fall off your mount but the way this works the torches will be way up in the air enabling more than usual to be sky high.

Keep SPAMMING
I had well over 40 torches before the timer expired and there were torches continually falling well after the timer went to 0 so if to do it this way, and dont get it the first time the 2nd time a bunch will proc right as the timer restarts.

Good luck all.

Comment by Random33698

http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info16959-Juggler.html

It may sound stupid, but my hands don't work fast enough to click (I have arthritis) and this addon just has you use the scrollwheel to do the achievement. I was able to do it myself in no time.

This can be done - just finding the right combination of location in dalaran and either clicking or using the addon will help.

Comment by Gwenna

Amen to this http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info16959-Juggler.html
Worked like a charm. Quick and easy! :)

Comment by 520584

Confirmed "mage shop in Dalaran (were you can buy Dalaran Brilliance or whatever it's called, etc.)" just sit and spam like crazy, if you need to watch your countdown, use the watch achievement. Works perfect. =)
Helps to have on your action bar

Comment by 270739

You can send these in the mail, so you don't have to buy a new set of em for your alts (as long as you don't drop too many since they disappear

Comment by 545280

You can trade the torches to friends, if they lack Burning Blossoms. =]

Comment by 161863

Note:

Unholy Presence (Death Knights only) reduces global cooldown of the torches by 0.5 seconds, so you can spam this with greater ease. I just got it about 5 minutes ago, fairly easy.

Comment by 620775

I was able to complete last night around midnight. This is what worked for me (server response seems to be the biggest factor):

Minimum 10 torches, 15 probably better
Drop video settings to low
Enable "Reduce input lag" on Resolution tab
Fly to one of the islands outside Dal
Bind torch to hotkey (used 1 for convenience)
Run command to bind mouse click to key (again, 0 felt comfortable). Enter this into chat line, like an emote (binding lasts until logout):
/script SetBinding("0","CAMERAORSELECTORMOVE")
Point view to look directly down on yourself
Make sure cursor is centered on you, so you'll catch the thrown torch (do a test one if necessary)
Start spamming bound keys - both torch & target - I didn't try to coordinate, just mashed them as fast as I could
Keep going until you get it or your arms fall off

I tried the same thing the first night, and could only get up to 38. Tried the flying/falling option and tossing it to another person at both min & max distances - nothing worked. Got it on the second round last night with this method. /shrug Good luck all

Comment by 110266

I believe this achievement has been hotfixed back to 20 seconds again (at least on EU realms). I did it with 4 seconds to spare without using any trick or addon - which doesn't seem possible if the timer was still on 15 seconds.

EDIT: After further examining it seems that the timer is still set to 15 seconds, but the timer now starts when you CATCH the first throw instead of when you THROW it.

Comment by shmeek

It worked for me the old fashioned way...

1) put the torches on my action bar on the 1 key.
2) clicked 1, then left mouse button while green targeting circle was under my character.
3) repeated this process slowly speeding up - got it on about the 10th try, at 8pm server time, with lag.

It's a &*!@#, but the trick is to have about 10 torches in the air when the thing starts counting. so you gotta keep mashing the buttons until the rhythm clicks

Comment by 535065

Listen, normally I would never go for something like this, but....GET THE JUGGLER ADD-ON. Trust me.

Comment by 258606

To complete Stormbound, add the following between steps two and three:

- Teleport to Purple Parlor (portal found in Violet Citadel across the Caverns of Time portal).

Comment by headhurt

I just completed this with the use of macros and some serious keyboard spamming. My fingers are achey, but I now have the title. Thanks for all the pointers.

Comment by shayneg123

Best way for me after having multiple failed attempts, is to be on a lap top and turn on the touch pad and use the buttons down there as you can just mash them wkd fast without moving ur mouse, got it on 2nd try after using the first one to get torches in the air b4 i started.

also, with 20 torches i always had a about 11 torches in my bags while using them so 10 should be fine.

Comment by 305821

I found going to the purple parlor and doing it on the balcony the best spot,
with the least lag. Second tip make sure you click track on the achmnt so
you can see the timer and how close your getting..Third after you hotkey the torches spam your
hotkey and click as fast as u can. If your getting close keep going went the timer runs out
the ones in the air may count on the timer reset. I did it in 3 attemps in a row non stop.
I still think this is the lamest achvmnt in the game. Good Luck.

Comment by 567177

An extra little trick that helps:

Use a laptop with touchpad instead of a mouse. That way you can position your cursor, and then spam ahead without moving the mouse by accident.

Comment by XylanTrueheart

I am having a weird problem. I have been trying to do this achievement on my Death Knight. I would hot key the throw and be exactly under the mouse circle but I am missing every torch and they land exploding. I was able to do this successfully on all my other alts but my DK can't do it. Anyone have any ideas why he can't?

Comment by 621842

after spending about 2 hours on this, I finally got it using my brother to spam the torch key and me spamming left mouse click. took a few tries, but on like the 4th try we got it.

Comment by Gerdofal

Another bit of advice. Don't try this during times with high pings, makes it a lot harder. Try for an overnight or early morning time on a weekday.

Comment by 622035

wtf? I hot-keyed the torches and held my cursor under my character. I lost all the torches cause they fell right in front of my character. Do I need to complete the torch juggling quest first? Cause I can't even go to the vendor and purchase torches.

Comment by 616080

I did this down in the sewers (I get 10 more fps down there) with the Juggler addon, and it worked great. I couldn't quite make it happen with ten torches for some reason, so I bought five more and did fine with fifteen.

Comment by MintySinty

After trying many times to do this achievement using all the aforementioned methods... Traditional style with settings at lowest possible, away from as much lag as possible (up on top of the ring above the Violet Citadel), even with Juggler, I still failed to get the achievement. I had 25 torches with me and I wasn't exactly running out...
Lo and behold I thought "Wait... didn't my new Magic Mouse get put on the shelf because the scroll sensing is absolutely ridiculous?" Well, I opened up the Magic Mouse, connected it, activated Juggler, then placed the mouse sideways on my keyboard tray... Worked like a charm. Got it the first try after that.
Though I couldn't help but think, what with the sideways hand motions stroking the Magic Mouse's smooth surface, that men must be far better at this stuff than I'll ever be. ;)

Comment by Allakhazam

Here is a guide on how to do this achievement:

http://www.#$%^&*!@#$%^&*!@#$%^.com/world-events/midsummer/torch-juggler/

Comment by DandyLion28

Here's an updated macro to save your wrist from carpal tunnel and make this significantly easier.

/cast Juggling Torch

Place on a hotkey, put your cursor over your character's feet, and mash like it's mario party. I bought 15 torches for this, but it's probably doable with 10.
For extra easy mode, temporarily bind your macro hotkey to mousewheel up or down.

Comment by DakMonkeyz

I had 10 torches and it worked fine. I went under a doorway in the upstairs of Dalaran inn (made sure none else was there)

Then I spammed this macro with mousewheel up/down aiming at my feet.

/use Juggling Torch

@player is probably better than cursor

The timer starts as soon as you toss the first. So if you toss a couple as test, you might want to wait until the timer resets and then do the whole thing.

Edit: This is the item you need 10 of for the achievement: Juggling Torch

Comment by OssumSawse

On a kind of laggy launch day, with a ping from the Southern Hemisphere on EU Server Mirage Raceway - I can say I got this with no issues

I bought 30 torches, and ended with 30 in my bag with my basic tactic.

I use my mouse for movement and point click - put the torches on keybind 2; and just spammed 2 while pointing at my feet.
I was perched on the ring of violet citadel since everyone was talking about lag.
But it worked, first try. and have all torches back in my bag.

Good luck on that Violet Proto last stretch 2023!

Comment by blizzisdumb

Attempting to do this on whitemane is impossible, after 9-14 torches are throw my character stops throwing them, the button stays highlighted and i cant do anything until the laggy server registers i have all the torches i threw or i cant throw anymore. it makes no sense

Comment by Destaice

Appears to be bugged. You get animation locked while catching torches and cannot continue throwing. Videos of the past show this wasn't the case.

Comment by Klingo

Just spam the following macro in Dalaran - no aiming required.
/use Juggling Torch

You're welcome.

Comment by Slbop

For complete this Achive need finish quests
Horde Torch Catching
Alliance Torch Catching

Comment by Dravend

If your having struggles in the timing of doing this make a macro and spam it on more than one key easy pick up grats on your purple protos people

/cast juggling torch

Comment by Rickitickitavi

my map had to say I was in Dalaran for it to work the macro was perfect
/cast Juggling Torch

Comment by LootB

Going to start out by saying this achv is by far the most annoying one out of all achv ive done for the Violet proto drake...

That being said the way I got it was through a combination of things

1. Turn off all Addons
2. Turn down video settings to nothing (not sure if this helped since I have quite a high quality PC rig)
3. Toggle all Reduction of Input Lag settings.
4. Create Macro /use Juggling Torch
5. Place Macro on keys 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6
6. Change keys 4, 5, 6 with Mouse Up, Mouse Down, and Middle Mouse Click
7. I went outside on the edge of Dalaran next to the trees for this to work. (I tried going on top of Dal with the Book TP from the book achv but did not work)
8. Spam harder than you have ever spammed the 3 keys while spamming your mouse wheel.
9. If you do not get it on the cycle you started wait until the timer is up before spamming again.
10. Repeat step 9 until you get this god forsaken achv!

Good luck everyone out there and congratz those of you that got your Violet Proto Drake!

Completed at Prime Time on Whitemane NA (Probably a good idea to do it at dead hours on your server if you are on a highly populated server)

Comment by Kanariya

Hotfixed with today's maintenance. You can now also earn this achieve in Stormwind, Ironforge, Orgrimmar, and Undercity. This change is for Classic only and does not apply to Retail.

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Torch Juggler

Juggle 40 torches in 15 seconds in Dalaran, Stormwind, Ironforge, Orgrimmar, or Undercity.

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	40 torches (40)

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