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Comment by Daystar

This talent is the title of a book by Piers Anthony, where a common Joe becomes the new Death. First book in the Incarnations of Immortality series, and on a personal note, highly recommended.

Comment by 125406

This is also a reference to the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse who you may already know from Naxx. The final horseman is Death. Revelation 6:8 - "And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth part of the earth, to kill with sword, and with hunger, and with death, and with the beasts of the earth."

Comment by 96334

Regarding to the talent itself and not bible quotes, it seems very nice, 20% speed boost and 20% less stun durations for 2 talent points sounds good.

Comment by 73221

SpeedFu says it brings my mounted speed to 240%

Comment by Zulkys

"The duration of all Stun and Fear effects used against you is reduced by 20%"

does this only apply while we on mount or even while not mounted?

Comment by grimnos

is the stun and fear reduction just while mounted?

even while not mounted

Comment by NSX08

Someone know if this affect flying mount too?

Comment by Darthdavo

/annoyed
DK's get a 20% speed boost when Pala's get a 15%
But i have to say, good ability

Comment by Baronfel181st

However, Pursuit of Justice applies to both running speed and mounted speed, this only applies to your mount.

Comment by 35964

For an 15% Movement speed increase in running, an DK can always use his Unholy Presence if needed, without investing any talent Points at all.

Comment by AzureShadow42

This will probably be marked down by morons, but does anyone know if this (or crusader aura, for that matter) affects speed on flight paths?

I haven't played in a year and a half, so I probably missed any discussion on that.

Comment by 52997

we don need yer stinkin paladins..

Comment by 298087

Are you guys sure it works on a flying mount aswell, because i had the feeling it didnt, and i asked a GM about this, and he said to me: "i am sorry but this only works on normal mounts, not flying :("

i had the feeling that it didnt so i asked him, and he said it doesnt.. which is strange since it says "increasing mounted speed".. in the outlands i walk on my 60% flying mount because it walks 100%, and when needed i fly, but if it doesnt use this spell it sucks.. so i use my horse everytime..

is some1 100% sure it also works on flying, or do u assume it does?

greetings,

Comment by 241152

As soon as I got this, my mounted speed seemed to go way, WAY over the top! zooming past everything that tries to hit me, now I can't even imagine being without this.

the stun/fear reduction is pretty sweet too.

Comment by 309903

On a pale horse is Also a song title to the First Halo Soundtrack =)

Comment by 310867

Someone tell me if this 20% fear/stun reduction stacks with metagems that has the same properties? i supose it does'nt stack but i want it confirmed.

The tooltip only suggest that the speed increase does not stack but it sais nothing about the fear/stun reduction..

I've been looking around for it in the forums here but havent found the answer.

btw
This is my first post in any forum ever:)

Comment by 291540

Incorrect because for example a 60% mount moves you at 160% speed (1.6x), a 100% mount moves you at 200% speed (2.0x), and a 280% mount moves you at 380% speed (3.8x).

So 380% x 20% = 380+76 = 456%

So you'll be moving at 4.56x running or 456% ... in blizzard tooltip terms, this would be stated as 356% however.

That's kinda correct.... but not entirely Skip to the bottom if you trust my math :P

Took forever to calculate the normal running speed :'(
Normal Running Speed: __________________________________________________________ 7.5 Yards/Second
(normal running speed can range from 6 to 8 depending on your computer's performance)
Epic Flying Mount (280%) = _______________________________________________________ 28.5 Yards/Second

"On a Pale Horse" (add 20% to that) = _______________________________________________ 34.2 Yards/Second

Divide 34.2 by 7.5 and you get your movement speed as a percentage of normal running speed

Movement Speed: ________________________________________________________________ 456%

Subtracting 7.5 from 34.2 tells you how many yards more that is per second: 26.7
Dividing 26.7 by 7.5 gives you the speed increase: 356%

Speed Increase: __________________________________________________________________ 356%

The thing is, you can't say "4.56x" or "3.8x" since your speed isn't increased by 4.56 or 3.8... It's just 456% and 380% of normal running speed, not multiplied by it
To get the speed increase you subtract the normal speed from the final speed and you get 3.56x
("x" being your running speed)

Comment by 291540

____________________________________ Simplified _______________________________

1st Mount (Apprentice Riding):________________60% faster than running (160% overall speed)
1st Mount (On a Pale Horse):________________92% faster than running (192% overall speed)

2nd Mount (Journeyman Riding):______________100% faster than running (200% overall speed)
2nd Mount (On a Pale Horse):_______________140% faster than running (240% overall speed)

1st Flying Mount (Expert Riding):______________150%faster than running (250% overall speed)
1st Flying Mount (On a Pale Horse):__________200% faster than running (300% overall speed)

2nd Flying Mount (Artisan Riding): ____________280% faster than running (380% overall speed)
2nd Flying Mount (On a Pale Horse): _________356% faster than running (456% overall speed)

Ashes of Al'ar & Such:______________________310% faster than running (410% overall speed)
Ashes of Al'ar & Such (On a Pale Horse):______392% faster than running (492% overall speed)

*Updated Expert Riding from 60% to 150%*

Comment by 267546

this helped tremedously for skyshattered, was well worth the 100g

Comment by wilosoft

How come 100% mount speed becomes 140% with on a pale horse? it's only increase by 20% means 100% turns into 120%, and epic flying 280% turns into 336%

Comment by James

Your mounted speed is 100% faster than your running speed. 100% + 100% = 200%. Increasing mounted speed by 20% means 20% of what is already 100% faster, i.e. 20% more of what is already double running speed.

1.2 * (1.00 +1.00) = 2.40, or 240% of running speed.

This changes with faster mounts--the calculation was done with the base 100% mount (the Acherus Deathcharger). T3hZ10n's post goes into more detail.

Comment by 291540

I'm gonna make a movie

A runner tries out for a track team

The judges give his speed a score of (100)

He wants to go faster. He hops on a scooter that increases his speed by 100%
Now the judges say "Whoa, he's going 100% faster!" so they increase his score by 100%

Now his score is (200)

Still not fast enough. He sells the sissy scooter and buys a motorcycle
He shoots past the judges 280% faster than he did on foot
Juges say "OMFG! That dude's flying at epic speed!" He must be going 280% faster than the 1st run!

Increasing his original score by 280%, the runner now has a score of (380)!

Meh... 380 can still be beat. In an attempt to break the world record, he adds some (pale) horsepower.
A new exhaust system and some NoS push his bike to the limit...
The judges are like "WTF! That's gotta be 20% better than the run before this!"

They increase his score of 380 by 20% and BAM! His score is now 456

But wait... his original score was 100, so we have to take away his original score to see how much faster than (100) he is actually going... ahhh 356% faster :D

So that bike and all those pale horses increase his run speed of (100) by 356%

________________________Cast______________________
Runner..........................................................Death Knight
Scooter.........................................................Epic G. Mount
Motorcycle....................................................Epic Fly Mount
Horsepower................................................."On a Pale Horse"

Comment by 40799

T3hZ10n, I think you've got a real candidate for a Wowhead Oscar with that film. It's the 'feel good' movie of the (arena)Season. Critics are saying: "You'll laugh...you'll QQ...you'll stand up and /cheer for 'On a Pale Horse'.

Comment by 206160

I read everything above and couldn't find the answer, so here is my question:

the stun duration - does it stack with Orc's Hardiness

ok, I got the answer when i check Hardiness
https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/spell=20573

looks like it stack, but not additively,
taking the calculation from one of the post there,

7 second HoJ * .85 Hardiness * .85 Earthstorm Diamond * .8 Iron Will = 4.05 second HoJ (42% reduction)
(credit to Vayus)

Comment by 252790

does this work with Mechano-hog ?

Comment by Wanky

If your spec isn't Unholy, don't worry: you can still get this talent if you have 19 talent points (at most) left over at 80 (meaning you can get it as soon as level 77 if you put 51 talent points into Frost or Blood and two into this).

Comment by 215288

Many people I have seen look at this talent as a tanking talent, and I can see why, but I am here to tell you that it is not worth the two points. Very many of the PvP talents available to a DK also work or are used as Tanking talents, but this one just doesn't cut it.

In PvP you are subject to TONS of STUNS. Everyone has some sort of stun, and in PvP EVERY second of damage you can dish out counts. In a PvE setting, time can be an issue, but even a 10 second stun (unheard of in end game PvE to my knowledge) would only grant you 2 seconds shaved off of that time. 2 seconds in PvE typically does not amount to much, especially as a tank. In order to see signifigant benefit in PvE there would really have to be a boss that stuns you numerous times so that the 20% time taken off would amount to much more reduced downtime. I would say as a tank your points are better spent elsewhere, but this talent will always have a place in my heart for PvP.

Comment by 345133

Great book.

Comment by 125686

okay im here to attempt to clear up a few things

as interesting as the bible is, i honestly dont care, blizz do a nice job of their ingame references, but its not really something thats going to affect my tanking. as is the mount speed, its really not something i see as important in any way shape or form

what i am more interested in is the wording of this talent, is it like "arcane focus" and is badly worded i.e. is that stun reduction across the board, or is it only when mounted

(arcane focus says "it increases chance to hit AND reduces mana cost of arcane spells by x%" this leaves room for ambiguity asto whether or not the hit % is across the board for all spells or just for arcane spells, as it turns out it is only for arcane spells)

so if someone could clear this up for me that'd be great

Comment by Morticide

It felt like I've been *flying* faster with my Undead Gryphon. It's the only mount I have, but today when I was with a druid friend I decided to test it.

I did indeed fly way faster than him in a straight line. Even he saw it.

I don't know if it was another item or something, but I doubt it. Maybe it only works if you have the Undead Gryphon?

Comment by 422867

here is y i think this is WAAAAY op:

- it gives a passive crusader aura 4 the DK
- allows the DK 2 catch up 2 ANY class (unless its a pally wiv crusader aura on) then grab them and pwn them
- on top of that it gives 20% less stun/fear

this is NOT cool (if ur not a DK anyway...)

Comment by 515829

This does not, does not affect flying mount speed. All the math is pointless.

Comment by 149373

Actually:

Reading is fundamental.

Chuck Norris is power.

Comment by 457989

I read everything above and couldn't find the answer, so here is my question:

the stun duration - does it stack with Orc's Hardiness?

https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/spell=20573

Comment by 590092

But, If it's Mounted Speed increased by 20% then wouldn't it be 300% (Epic Flying) instead of 356%? Because 280% increased by 20% isnt 356%.
Just a thought, not trying to be contradictive to the people above for saying it is 356%, just wondering if it is or not.
Downrate if im wrong and up if im right, ill come back to this in a week and find it's been purged XD
Merci,
Yasuhiko135

Comment by TinyPhreak

Stun effects reduction table:
(Stun reductions used: Orc Racial, Protection Paladin Talent, Arms Warrior Talent, Discipline Priest Talent, Unholy Death Knight Talent & Meta Gem)

Sap
10 seconds = Original duration
8.5 seconds = Hardiness / Powerful Earthstorm Diamond
8.0 seconds = Iron Will / On a Pale Horse
7.2 seconds = Hardiness + Powerful Earthstorm Diamond
7.0 seconds = Stoicism / Unbreakable Will
6.8 seconds = Hardiness / Powerful Earthstorm Diamond + Iron Will / On a Pale Horse
6.0 seconds = Stoicism / Unbreakable Will + Powerful Earthstorm Diamond
5.8 seconds = Hardiness + Powerful Earthstorm Diamond + Iron Will / On a Pale Horse

Hammer of Justice & Kidney Shot (5 CP)
6.0 seconds = Original duration
5.1 seconds = Hardiness / Powerful Earthstorm Diamond
4.8 seconds = Iron Will / On a Pale Horse
4.3 seconds = Hardiness + Powerful Earthstorm Diamond
4.2 seconds = Stoicism / Unbreakable Will
4.1 seconds = Hardiness / Powerful Earthstorm Diamond + Iron Will / On a Pale Horse
3.6 seconds = Stoicism / Unbreakable Will + Powerful Earthstorm Diamond
3.5 seconds = Hardiness + Powerful Earthstorm Diamond + Iron Will / On a Pale Horse

Maim (5 CP), Concussion Blow & Deep Freeze
5.0 seconds = Original duration
4.3 seconds = Hardiness / Powerful Earthstorm Diamond
4.0 seconds = Iron Will / On a Pale Horse
3.6 seconds = Hardiness + Powerful Earthstorm Diamond
3.5 seconds = Stoicism / Unbreakable Will
3.4 seconds = Hardiness / Powerful Earthstorm Diamond + Iron Will / On a Pale Horse
3.0 seconds = Stoicism / Unbreakable Will + Powerful Earthstorm Diamond
2.9 seconds = Hardiness + Powerful Earthstorm Diamond + Iron Will / On a Pale Horse

Cheap Shot, Shockwave & Bash
4.0 seconds = Original duration
3.4 seconds = Hardiness / Powerful Earthstorm Diamond
3.2 seconds = Iron Will / On a Pale Horse
2.9 seconds = Hardiness + Powerful Earthstorm Diamond
2.8 seconds = Stoicism / Unbreakable Will
2.7 seconds = Hardiness / Powerful Earthstorm Diamond + Iron Will / On a Pale Horse
2.4 seconds = Stoicism / Unbreakable Will + Powerful Earthstorm Diamond
2.3 seconds = Hardiness + Powerful Earthstorm Diamond + Iron Will / On a Pale Horse

Intercept, Shadowfury, Pounce, Demon Charge, Intercept (Pet), Intimidation (Pet) & Gnaw (Pet)
3.0 seconds = Original duration
2.6 seconds = Hardiness / Powerful Earthstorm Diamond
2.4 seconds = Iron Will / On a Pale Horse
2.2 seconds = Hardiness + Powerful Earthstorm Diamond
2.1 seconds = Stoicism / Unbreakable Will
2.0 seconds = Hardiness / Powerful Earthstorm Diamond + Iron Will / On a Pale Horse
1.8 seconds = Stoicism / Unbreakable Will + Powerful Earthstorm Diamond
1.7 seconds = Hardiness + Powerful Earthstorm Diamond + Iron Will / On a Pale Horse

War Stomp, Inferno, Impact, Ravage (Pet) & Sonic Blast (Pet)
2.0 seconds = Original duration
1.7 seconds = Hardiness / Powerful Earthstorm Diamond
1.6 seconds = Iron Will / On a Pale Horse
1.5 seconds = Hardiness + Powerful Earthstorm Diamond
1.4 seconds = Stoicism / Unbreakable Will
1.4 seconds = Hardiness / Powerful Earthstorm Diamond + Iron Will / On a Pale Horse
1.2 seconds = Stoicism / Unbreakable Will + Powerful Earthstorm Diamond
1.2 seconds = Hardiness + Powerful Earthstorm Diamond + Iron Will / On a Pale Horse

Charge
1.5 seconds = Original duration
1.3 seconds = Hardiness / Powerful Earthstorm Diamond
1.2 seconds = Iron Will / On a Pale Horse
1.1 seconds = Hardiness + Powerful Earthstorm Diamond
1.1 seconds = Stoicism / Unbreakable Will
1.0 seconds = Hardiness / Powerful Earthstorm Diamond + Iron Will / On a Pale Horse
0.9 seconds = Stoicism / Unbreakable Will + Powerful Earthstorm Diamond
0.9 seconds = Hardiness + Powerful Earthstorm Diamond + Iron Will / On a Pale Horse

Should be right. Correct me if wrong, or if I forgot something. Note that these are rounded numbers, so kindly don't nitpick about that.

PS. Didn't add Ferocity Hunter pets with the talent Lionhearted because there's already enough information on here as is, and didn't want to bloat it further. So, Hunters, just multiply the original duration of the stun you want to know about with .7 (last rank) and you'll see how much reduction it gives.

Hopefully this helps a bit.

Yours truly,
*signs*

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On a Pale Horse

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You become as hard to stop as death itself. The duration of all Stun and Fear effects used against you is reduced by 20%, and your mounted speed is increased by 20%. This does not stack with other movement speed increasing effects.

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None

Range

0 yards (Self)

Cast time

Instant

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n/a

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0 seconds

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	On a Pale Horse

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	On a Pale Horse

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