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Comment by 7828

This spell takes Curse of Exhaustion from great to amazing. In PvP this will allow you to kite almost any class.

For PvE uses 50% extra damage on Curse of Agony is nothing to sneeze at. Use it as often as the cooldown comes back up so long as your initial CoA is expiring before the mob dies.

Comment by 8089

This is good with curse of agony, gives it that extra 50% damage to make sure your opponent dies, even if you do.

Comment by 8888_

Easy macro for those who want to Amplify Curse whenever it is up, and cast Curse of Agony whether or not it is up.

/script UIErrorsFrame:Hide()
/cast Amplify Curse
/stopcasting
/cast Curse of Agony
/stopcasting
/script UIErrorsFrame:Clear()
/script UIErrorsFrame:Show()

There ya go!

Comment by cyborg99

When was this changed to affect Curse of Doom?

Comment by macky

And when did they take out CoW from this?

Comment by 53090

You get more damage with Amplified Curse of Doom than you get with Amplified Curse of Agony, and with far less mana. I cast Amplified Curse of Doom on all bosses, and if they have over 50% health when it procs, I cast it again. If not, I cast Curse of Agony.

Comment by Carighan

Remember you can Amplify 1 in 3 CoDs. That's a +33% damage on CoD you got there, which is pretty powerful all in all.

(since in a boss-nuking environment, CoD is superior to CoA unless the fight is very very mobile)

Comment by 81604

Does it add 50% before or after +spell dmg?

Comment by 90829

Unfortunately, this no longer affects curse of weakness. It used to really help with harder-hitting guys (and the occasional warrior).

Comment by Zurr

For WotLK:
Going to be changed to passive -0.5 seconds for global cooldown to curses.

Curse of Exhaustion is being made 30% speed reduction base and only reduces the global cooldown caused by casting it.

Comment by geoffster

#showtooltip Curse of Agony
#show Curse of Agony
/console Sound_EnableSFX 0
/cast Amplify Curse
/script UIErrorsFrame:Clear();
/console Sound_EnableSFX 1
/cast Curse of Agony

If you have #showtooltip you do not need a #show.

Comment by 154460

good to couple with curse of doom in curator during evocation phase for those crazy hits(remember don't can't crit:D)

Comment by Blightman

Currently listed as -

Reduces the global cooldown of your Curses by 0.5 sec.

Sounds weak to me in both PvE and PvP. Only reason to pick it up would to be get to CoEx. Hope they change it again

Comment by 206160

even to get CoEx, I don't think its worth it as CoEx only reduce movement speed by 30%.
rogue poison slows you 70%...
and many classes can spec 15% movement speed.

Comment by 192396

In the 3.0.2. PTR this currently reduces the global cooldown of curses by .5 seconds, which i found quite wierd. This must actually be the first thing to reduce global cooldown.

Comment by 178668

Since they nurfed it to only reduce the GCD by .5, this has got to be the weakest talent in the entire game by a long shot. In fact it may arguably be the weakest talent that has ever been in the game.

Comment by 147712

If you compare this with the old skill ( https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/spell=18288 ) it appears to be a passive buff. Meaning the global cooldown on all curses is reduced by .5 seconds (not 50% which is significant if you count in haste, which would reduce its effectiveness)

In short this should half the cast time cost of ALL curses you cast. Which means if your the warlock that has to cast tongues on all the caster mobs and weakness on the melee mobs to keep your weak tank alive, it takes you significantly less time before you get to start actually dpsing.

Another good application is spamming Exhaustion in pvp.

Thats actually not too shabby for a single talent point.

Comment by duhwhat

I guess if you needed to dot up a lot of targets with curses then I guess this would be useful

incredibly useful for leveling. multimob drain tanking is still how we're going to be leveling from 70-80, and throwing up 4-6 curses of agony, corruptions, and siphon lifes is now going to be quicker.

Comment by 37999

Does this stack with spell haste? That is, could it be possible to get your curses cooldown to half a second?

Comment by notquitegosu

Despite now being a passive ability in 3.02, you can keep it on your action bar IF you had it on your action bar before. If you try to move it, however, you won't be able to put it back on.

Comment by 122941

did they change the limitations of the number of curses per mob in wotlk? cuz if it is still one curse per mob, i rlly dont see the point of this spell...unless of course as mentioned above, to get CoEx(which is not as good now...) or CoAing multiple mobs (but even that is not too good)

Comment by 43530

Only significant use I can see for this is to Dot-Tab spam a bunch of targets in large-scale PvP or for farming. It lets a lock Curse-Tab mobs/enemy players down 33% faster. Ex: Go find a batch of 10 mobs in a zone, curse tab each of them, takes 10 seconds instead of 15 (ignoring lag).

Granted, this is very limited in use because you don't simply cast one dot than move onto another target usually...

Add one DoT, total time is 3.0 sec, or 2.5 without. 16.7% faster. (i.e. Corruption + Curse of Agony)
Add two DoTs, total time is 4.5 sec, or 4.0 without , 11% faster. (i.e. Siphon Life, Corr, CoA)

A hard sell truth be told, however it could prove some use for leveling I suppose.

Comment by Ugru

This becomes extremely useful in a raid boss situation with an Affliction/Ruin build. By shaving .5 seconds off of the GCD on curses (assuming CoA is in the rotation), it amounts to an extra Shadowbolt every third rotation. If the Shadowbolt crits, that's an extra 5.5k-6.5k strike. .5 seconds may not seem like a lot, but in a long encounter it really adds up.

Comment by 280353

I dunno, I think I'd rather use the talent point in Nightfall instead and pray that it procs rather than putting it into this talent. I miss the old Amplify, even if I forgot to use it half the time.

Comment by 62635

Just for a couple of the potential QQers out there. What this actualy does is reduce your normal (1.5sec) GCD to a 1 sec GCD after casting any curse essentialy meaning you can cast your NEXT spell faster ( Or start casting your next spell faster as the case may be) This doesn't only apply to curses, you dont HAVE to cast another curse after the first one for this talent to be useful.

Just to clear up some of the tooltip text, some people seem to be misunderstanding what this actualy does.

Comment by 339146

i dont know if it was metion b4 this only speeds ur curses not ur corrution or any other afflcition..

Comment by 433101

This is a great leveling talent for Afflic lock if you level my taking on muti-mobs at a time.
cast sequence is:
Life tap (rank 1),
Curse of Agony,
Corruption,
Tab to next mob
Life taping for mana and to keep buff up.
You can do this up to 5 -15 mobs depending on your Spell power.

That being said with CoA and Corr both being instant cast the .5 GCD between CoA and Corr. This is huge.

1.5 sec to dot up 1 mob vs 2 sec to dot 1 mob is not very impressive.
1.5 sec per mob @ 10 mobs is 15 secs
2.0 sec per mob @ 10 mobs is 20 secs, Huge difference.

edited because I can't spell

Comment by 111373

This:

omg, you cant undarstant that this reduces GCD only on curses?

I'll try to explain the best I can: when you cast a spell, you see all your spell buttons turn gray-ish and they regain color in a clock-wise direction, this is the so-called GCD and takes 1.5 sec base on all classes (except rogues, which is 1 sec). With the Amplify Curse talent, you will see exactly the same on all your spells, except on Curses, which will take only 1 sec (not counting haste) to be clickable again. This means that you will be able to click a curse 0.5 sec before any other spell. So, no matter what spell you cast, this talent is only useful when you cast a curse after whatever you wanted to cast in the first place.

I hope it's understood now.

Comment by 310422

If by "rotation" you mean only curse refreshing, yes, after you've casted 3x Curse of Agony, you've saved 1.5 seconds. 1.5 seconds isn't exactly a free Shadow Bolt though, Shadow Bolt has a 2.5 second cast time with talents. That means you need to have cast 5 curses before you get one extra Shadow Bolt, doesn't it? I'm not assuming I'm right about this so feel free to correct me.

Saying you gain 0.5 seconds every rotation also assumes you have zero haste, which means you are practically naked. This talent becomes less and less useful the more haste you have, because you can't go under the 1 second gcd. With IC level gear you can EASILY gain 1100 haste rating (~33.55%) with spellstone, which sets your global cd to 1.12 seconds.

That means you should be able to spam cast CoA in ~0.75 second intervals, if the 0.5 second gcd reduction is applied before haste, and with other spells this is so.

I saved my combatlog and started spamming CoA using my whole mana pool, approximately 70 casts.
Without the talent: Average time between each SPELL_CAST_SUCCESS message was ~1.20 seconds. That's 0.08 seconds over the "expected". Basically this is the real latency for everything what happens between my fingers, keyboard and the WoW server (~80 ms). Edit: You actually can't queue spells until after the GCD so that's why your "minimum GCD" will be 1 second + your latency.
With the talent: ~1.08 seconds. That's the same delta value of 0.08 seconds over the 1 second hard-capped global cooldown. If the GCD could be reduced below 1 second, the expected value would've been 0.82 seconds.
Without talents - With talents = 1.20 sec -1.08 sec = 0.12 seconds, which in fact is the difference between my global cooldown and the hard capped global cooldown (1 second minimum gcd + 0.12 seconds = 1.12 seconds = my hasted gcd.)

So on one hand this talent scales negatively with haste. On the other hand if you have 0 haste, your Shadow Bolts will take longer to cast as well, so that softens the curve a bit. In paper it will still add more dps than any other alternative talent point. Reality might be another thing, depending on environment.

Going back to our example haste rating. With that 0.12 second gain I need to cast 16 curses to gain one extra Shadow Bolt (1.87 second cast time), if we continue the SB comparison. (The CoA-glyph makes this talent even worse). Of course you cast something else than just Shadow Bolt and a curse so you do gain some damage even if you didn't manage to squeeze in one extra Shadow Bolt. With all raid buffs, what I get from this talent is about 7 dps (using simcraft to evaluate). That's so tiny it gets lost in the sea of random events, but the alternatives aren't that much better I'm afraid.

For a 56/0/15 dark pact build the only real alternative is a 3 talent point mixture of Improved Drain Soul and Fel Concentration.
For a 55/0/15+1 Life Tap build you actually only have 2 talent points to move around because you need imp. LT, but one point you can move to demonology (e.g. 1/2 HS) or destruction tree if you want. The one talent point that you have to have in affliction goes to 1/1 AC, 1/2 Imp. DS or 1/3 FC. I'd say that if you want to skip Amp. Curse in this tree, use the extra floater to get 2/2 DS or 2/3 FC to really benefit from them.

What's the conclusion? The more haste you get, the less beneficial this talent is for you. You need 50% haste to make this a totally worthless talent point. 50 % = 1640 hr, though with raid buffs you don't need as much. Actually with 5% spell haste totem and 3% all haste buff you need 38.7% haste (or 38.9% depending on whether they're multiplied or added, respectively) to get to 50%. That's 1269 rating.

Would be fun if talents could actually reduce your GCD below 1 second with non-spammable* abilities such as curses. What's the harm? The only exception for when spamming a curse might be beneficial would be spamming CoEx against a decurser. That way you could cast max-hasted CoEx+Corr in the time of zero hasted 1,5 sec global cooldown. Not exactly game breaking. They could make the talent more interesting for sure, or at least wipe the last remains of the more interesting old amp. curse :P

*i.e. spamming prevents the damage from happening or doesn't have any additional effect, or has a cooldown.

edit 10: as you can see, I edit a lot to fix grammar, to add some afterthoughts etc. :D

Comment by clavarnway

This talent gets worse as you get better gear. For example, with 0 haste, this talent reduces the time you have to wait before casting another spell by .5 seconds. However with 25% haste, this talent only reduces that time by .25 seconds. And with 40% haste, which I'm getting close to with mostly ICC gear, the window is even smaller. I'm thinking about picking up Improved Drain Soul 1/2 for threat reduction. It makes sense - as my gear gets better, this talent gets worse, and passive threat reduction gets better.

Comment by Thottbot

its vcery good and useful

Comment by Thottbot

..sure, you go ahead and dispell that curse of agony. you only have 18 seconds to dispell that seed of corruption and while your at it, may as well dispell that Unstable affliction.. aww, oops. your dead. silly mage, go drink some water.

Comment by Thottbot

Has anyone else been able to get an amplified curse of doom of on any on the BC bosses? i keep trying but every time it just put Cod on em unamplfied and wastes my amp curse.

Comment by Thottbot

This should make the Curse Dispellable,and make it so it effects every curse somehow....

Comment by Thottbot

Oops I ment,undispellable....

Comment by Thottbot

Does that mean a speed reducement of 50% (20%+30%) or does it mean 36% (30% + 20% of 30%)

Comment by Thottbot

It says in the tooltip, "and your next Curse of Exhaustion by an _additional_ 20%, meaning it adds 20%.

Comment by Thottbot

/Cast Aplify Curse
/stopcasting
/Cast Curse of Agony

iwin :D

Comment by Thottbot

apmilfy curse, my best friend.

amp curse + curse of exhaustion = fun with ally warriors.

Comment by Allakhazam

Is this broken? I can't move it to my spellbar.

Comment by Allakhazam

Whats the Cooldown?

Comment by Allakhazam

With the +6% talent build to Improved Curse of Agony at level 59, I get about 1500 damage dealt to the target in 30 seconds ontop of what I'm already doing with the Amplify Curse buff. Also good for the Improved Curse of Weakness talent build for protecting your group's tank from serious hits from dungeon bosses

Comment by Allakhazam

3 minutes

Comment by Allakhazam

Does this actually work? When I activate this Amplify Curse and then target an enemy mob and cast Curse of Agony I "says" the damage dealt is 1044 over 24 seconds (at level 59). Just as much as when I wouldn't cast that Amplify Curse.
And the enemy doesn't seem to die faster either.

Now I don't know if that is then calculated "on the inside", but I think it would be nice to add that damage bonus also in ti's tooltip then.
So, does anybody know if it actually works? :)

Edit: Yes it works :) ... I've tested it myself just now

Edited, Jan 4th 2008 8:02am by BigBplayboy

Comment by akmarizam

I basically pick this up while leveling, so I can CoE and Coruption right after, saving (theoretically) 0.5 sec off every mob. now, counting how many mobs you have to kill all your way up, this is NOT BAD a talent.

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Amplify Curse

Amplify Curse

Talent

Reduces the global cooldown of your Curses by 0.5 sec.

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Amplify Curse	Magic

Reduces the global cooldown of your Curses by 0.5 sec.

Spell Details

Duration

n/a

School

Shadow

Mechanic

n/a

Dispel type

Magic

GCD category

n/a

Cost

None

Range

0 yards (Self)

Cast time

Instant

Cooldown

n/a

GCD

0 seconds

Effect

Apply Aura: Modifies Global Cooldown (21)
Value: -500 milliseconds
PVP Multiplier: 1
Affected Spells:

	Curse of Doom	Curse of Weakness	Curse of Agony
	Curse of Agony	Curse of Weakness	Curse of the Elements
	Curse of Tongues	Curse of Weakness	Curse of Agony
	Curse of Weakness	Curse of Weakness	Curse of Weakness
	Curse of Agony	Curse of Agony	Curse of Agony
	Curse of Tongues	Curse of the Elements	Curse of the Elements
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	Curse of Agony	Curse of Weakness	Curse of the Elements
	Curse of Weakness	Curse of Doom	Curse of Agony
	Curse of Agony	Curse of the Elements	Curse of Doom
	Curse of Weakness	Curse of Exhaustion

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