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Comment by Dragonflame

Looks like Ced's Carver, without the shadow flame enchant.

Comment by Windserpent

Could someone post this vs Dirge for Combat Rogue offhand?

Is +17 haste, 4 DPS and .1 sec faster > +20 crit?

(I think I can guess the answer...but I'm looking for a reason to stick with Dirge!)

Comment by 49832

I would still prefer the S2 dagger. The Haste is nice but the over all lose of stats is too much.

Comment by tarsakh

One of the best weapons in the game for a Fury warrior. Equip when boss is at 20%, for huge execute spam. 1.3 speed with good stats, makes this one of, if not the best weapon to swap in for max dps.

Comment by 129077

Dual wield this with searing sunblade and casters will hate you for the rest of eternity xD

Comment by DarkShade

This is the best offhand for combat rogues before raiding that can be gained doing pve.

Comment by 50617

This is actually a pretty good threat weapon, I just got it (Upgrade from Grom'tors Charge), and my TPS went up almost 200.

Comment by 145515

The only time I would allow a warrior to roll on this over a rogue is if the rogue already has it. Warriors can make use of this dagger. Once a boss drops below 20%, a smart warrior will carry around the fastest weapons he can find to execute spam. I say this because an execute that uses more than 15 rage is wasted rage. With two fast weapons to swap to, rage will be generated in a constant stream instead of a bunch of spikes. This allows for constant executes at the 15 rage limit.

Comment by 143424

The haste on this dagger is nice for BM Hunters. Swapping this with https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/item=28768, even without the +20agil enchant still increases my Ranged DPS by 0.3, becuz of the haste (increased my attack speed from 2.25 to 2.22, with the Gladiator's Crossbow). Can't wait to slap a +20 agil enchant on this dagger.

Comment by 32701

I'm curious what people think of using this for PvP paired with the main hand badge fist for a hemo+shadowstep nondagger build. I'm currently using quickening blade of the prince but I'm thinking maybe the haste might be worth more than the armor pen, plus the 1.3 vs 1.5 speed means I have to shiv less to keep crippling up and I won't waste quite as many hemo debuffs.

Comment by 137220

That is incorrect Militaint

Rage generation formula copied from a "Blue" post on the WoW forums:

Here are the current rage generation formulae (note: these are slightly different than the ones which are on the current public test realms).

The notable changes include an update to offhand rage generation (previously it was not being normalized correctly), and an improvement to rage generation from crits (essentially, crits now generate double the rage the hit would have ordinarily caused). The later change should help ensure that certain specs (ie: sword specialization) don't become clearly superior to crit-enhancing specializations like Axe/Polearm.

For Dealing Damage:
Main Hand Normal Hits: Factor=2.5
Main Hand Crits: Factor=5.0
Off Hand Normal Hits: Factor=1.25
Off Hand Crits: Factor=2.5

Rage Conversion Value (note: this number is derived from other values within the game such as a mob's hit points and a warrior's expected damage value against that mob):

Rage Conversion at level 60: 230.6
Rage Conversion at level 70: 274.7

Expansion Rage Gained from dealing damage = ((Damage Dealt) / (Rage Conversion at Your Level) * 7.5 + (Weapon Speed * Factor))/2

Pre-Expansion Rage Gained from dealing damage = (Damage Dealt) / (Rage Conversion at Your Level) * 7.5

For Taking Damage (both pre and post expansion):
Rage Gained = (Damage Taken) / (Rage Conversion at Your Level) * 2.5

On a side note I found myself here while looking up haste items for my newest pet project character, the last class I have yet to play at 70. (currently lvl69 hunter) The easiest and possibly only haste items available to a new 70 come from MGT. Counting 3 drops from regular and a pair of these daggers the total haste available is 90 which would bring a 2.8speed ranged weapon like say the badge xbow to a more suitable 1.91speed 1.66 with imp AotH active.

Comment by 50617

So I was a bit bored, and decided to find the fastest setup in the game currently
You would be wearing this:
Edge of Oppression x2 (17x2) Dual Mongoose (+4% haste)
Clutch of Demise (30)
Cloak of Unforgivable Sin (32)
Tusk Breaker (18)
Duplicitous Guise (34) Thundering Skyfire Meta (240 proc)
Breastplate of Ire (51)
Onslaught Treads (30)
Band of Devastation x2 (31x2)
Pillager's Gauntlets (38) +10 haste rating enchant
Felfury Legplates (50)
Swiftstrike Shoulders (38)
Belt of Seething Fury (38)
Swiftsteel Bracers (27)
Abacus of Violent Odds (260 on demand)
Dragonspine Trophy (325 proc)

You would use:
Flurry (+30% haste on crit)
Berserking (+10-30% haste)
Bloodthirst (+30% haste)
Haste Potion (+400 haste rating)

For a grand total of 1717 potential haste rating and 64-94% AS increase, and 492 passive haste (putting swing speed at .99 base).

At best your attack speed will hit around .32, but you'd have to be a troll warrior with access to every piece of gear in the game to even try it. Because of the Azzinoth proc, the dagger is .003 AS slower than the offhand in the Warglaive set, but the mainhand in the set is .27 AS slower than the dagger.

Obviously not something you'd probably see done, but possible.

Comment by 228022

i`m combat Rogue dagger spec , i use it in Offhand , but want to know is this dagger better then Searing Sunblade?

Comment by 111081

This weapon is now favorable for Mutilate users due to the increased Nature damage from poisons. Faster daggers are doing higher DPS than slow ones over longer fights (more poison procs, more crits which yields more energy returns from Focused Attacks). This dagger is quite easy to obtain and scores near top on the list of the most attractive weapons post-patch. Get two!

Comment by 165587

then, this picture would be interesting for you guys
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/o173/kbc8090/hastelol.jpg
have fun with it

Comment by Allakhazam

This is the off-hand compliment to the Malchazeen since they have very close matching skins and the speed differential. Best dagger combo in game IMO. Second best would be Merciless Gladiator's Shanker and the Searing Sunblade (matching skins) in off-hand. Reason? One word: Shiv. Okay, two words: Shiv, looks. I don't want to just kill fast and top the damage meters... I want to look good doing it.

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Edge of Oppression

	Phase 1

Item Level 115
Binds when picked up

One-Hand	Dagger

79 - 148 Damage	Speed 1.30

(87.31 damage per second)
+25 Stamina
Durability 75 / 75

Requires Level 70
Increases attack power by 454 in Cat, Bear, Dire Bear, and Moonkin forms only.
Equip: Improves haste rating by 17.
Equip: Increases attack power by 36.

Sell Price: 12 28 73

Dropped by: Vexallus

Drop Chance: 17.98%

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