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Comment by 165519

I'm pretty sure this title is already available for people who complete this task.

I know I've definately seen people with it in TBC.

(Correct me if this title was removed at some point and is now being re-implimented.)

Comment by Ashek

The Justicar title was never 'officially' removed from the game... as far as coding is concerned. But to get it, one must hit exalted with all three factions... however since Blizzard removed the ability to turn in tokens for reputation, gaining exalted with anything but Alterac is nigh impossible.

So while it is still possible to obtain, it really isn't. So either Blizzard is just re-vamping the Justicar title coding to fit with the rest of WotLK, or they are re-implementing a way to gain reputation, and in turn, the Justicar title... *crosses fingers*

Comment by Soniaa

As a non-human who's grinded the rep without ever turning in a mark for rep, I'd hate to see any nerfs to this grind.

have fun with wsg alliance pugs :)

Comment by 293636

This dosen't really seem impossible, more like *slightly* hard. Let's say you give yourself a task, one of the PVP mounts. You'll need 30 marks, from WSG, AB and AV. So do AB until you have the 30 marks, you will get a fair amount of reputation, if you dont get your ass totally kicked.
I play alliance, and we loose alot in AB, still I made from friendly 5000~ to 1300~ honored by doing AB constantly for a day. It's a much harder challenge than for example getting a Netherdrake, since this is the constant doing of something that will after a while seem boring(rush to a flag, kill someone, die, respawn, rush to a flag, kill someone, die, respawn etc).

I wish everyone who is trying to get this the best of luck. You'll be on a good way to the title gained from 100.000 HKs also. Should I succeed in getting either I will report back when I do so.
Again, best of luck.

Edit(19 days after initial post):
Currently 5000 into revered with Arathor. Also this is wasn't contstant PVPing. The Alliance in my battlegroup(which in this case is Blackout) has for some reason increased the amount of victories exceptionally. Now I see about 70-85% of the battles I fight end up in glorious victory for the Alliance.
Also my mailbox is filled with marks. I'm looking forward to play WSG with my well earned Arathor Battle Tabard(whenever I hit exalted that is).
This reminds me of a "rather" humorous situation earlier this week in one of my many battles. A random level 80 hunter with neutral Arathor reputation(meaning he hasn't seen too much action in Arathi Basin) said "good job guys ;)" or something similiar, to which I replied "Welcome to the front, after spending a day or two here, you will never smile again".(Serious paladin is serious :O)

In any case, I will update again once I hit exalted. Best of luck to everybody after the title(or the tabard for that matter).

Edit #2:
Currently 7000 into Revered, but just to add, like Ashek said, I currently want to gouge my eyes out with a spork.
This is getting really annoying, the people you play with are a bunch of incompentent idiots, everything from 12-year olds to "Make This A Quick Loss Guyz"-#$%gots to wannabe commanders that ^&*! %^&* up worse than when people dont listen. My overall mood has changed, I'm not a person with a long temper, but now I get extremely frustrated at very small things, which I didnt before, even though I dont have a long temper.
Every time we get FACEROLLED in AB, I want to smash something.
Seriously, if I'd meet any of these idiots I play with I'd smash their face at the pavement until they'd have no !@#$ing face left.
I'd adivise people with a short temper to stay the hell away, or you'll end up killing someone.
Loving Regards,
Me.

Edit #3:
Been slacking abit, currently 9000 into revered, and I have plans to hit exalted next week.
Update when I do so.

Edit #4: 11,000 into Revered(11098/21000 | 9902 rep to go). Plan on hitting exalted on MONDAY(february the third).

Edit #5(lol): 15,487 into revered(5513 rep to go). Due to my ISP shutting me off for two days(!) for maintenance I did not make it by monday, however, I am however going to hit exalted today(or early tomorrow, if I happen to magically fall asleep - will update once again when I do so.). TABARD INC <3

Edit #6:
Exalted, at last.
Statistics(friendly-exalted):
499 Arathi Basin battles
228 Arathi Basin victories
10019 Arathi Basin honorable kills
4160 Arathi Basin killing blows
1525 deaths in Arathi Basin
1 achievement lacking for Master of Arathi Basin(To The Rescue - Defend flag 50 times)

WSG Edit #1:
Just thought I'd let you know I will start on WSG, and I will update this post after each rep level.

WSG Edit #2:
Revered. Not on farm.

WSG Edit #3:
I took up the farm again and I am about to reach exalted. All in all I'd say it took well over a month(disregarding the inactivity between farm sessions).
I generally tried to get 1000 rep/day. It has been a long tiersome trip, and I'll close to of-the-Alliance aswell(70,000 HKs), I can't say I regret it. Good luck to those who take this on, you have my highest respect.

Final Edit(hi Erknost):
I finished it sometime during November last year(ie 2009). As I earlier mentioned it has been a long tiersome trip, it's had it's ups and downs but I don't regret it.
I also started farming the 30,000 honorable kills I was missing for the 100,000 mark sometime during December which I finished sometime during January.
Best of luck to anyone who farms it.(##RESPBREAK##)16##DELIM##hatman555##DELIM##

Comment by 269688

I did the math and to get from neutral (0) to exalted takes 42000 rep, and you get 35 rep from each flag captured (unless its WSG weekend) it will take 1200 flag captures to get exalted with silverwing sentinels, or 400 wins. For Knights of arathor 1 win is 100 rep, so youd need 420 wins to get exalted with them, for AV its easy, lol. Good luck!

Comment by LuthofDS

After a long rep grind, i got this title. Its totally doable, but i suggest you bring a friend or 2 to the WSG part - me ( a rogue) and a pally friend managed to get me this title by basically 2-manning WSG (he'd heal me while i ran the flag, while the rest of the team was being mindless midfield farmnoobs)

Tip: in wsg you need flag caps for rep, not just wins or kills. See how much rep you get per flag, and calculate how many caps you need to get exalted (this might be a frightening number)

Comment by 242255

Pointless post, but anyone who goes for the Justicar title deserves the highest level of respect in my books. It's alot of commitment and perseverance.

Comment by keroblade

WSG won't be so bad when they put the 20minute cap on games in the new patch. :)

Comment by 251542

just started the long and boring grind for this title today, almost exhaulted with V already, neutral with both silverwing and the knights. i figure at least ill be able to buy as much arena gear as i want with all the honor ill be gaining. and epic gems galore

Comment by 230518

Some advice:

Being a Human (+10% rep) and a hybrid class (for some variety) makes this grind a little more bearable.

WSG:
Try to find a PVP Twink guild and do this with your guild at lower levels. 2-3 good players working together can win a WSG. Lower levels don't have all of the "I-WIN" buttons that make matches at 80 so painful. Either the 39 or 49 bracket is a good place to hang out while doing this, as the classes are somewhat balanced and there won't be 8 DK's running around 2 shotting everyone with their starter gear.

AB:
It's gotten better, but it used to be pretty hard to get more than 2 ABs an hour at lower levels, thus you may need to go to 80 to maximize your bg time.

I found this grind to be a lot more hellish. Realistically, you need 5 or so people in a premade to be able to win AB consistently. The worst part is, even dominating wins take almost 20 mins. However, you can chill a lot more in AB, guarding bases and such. Alliance in my battlegroup win about 30% of ABs and specialize in the 20 minute 1600-500 loss (=30 rep), if it's the same for you I would advise you to transfer elsewhere, as my average was about 100-150 rep per hour spent in the bgs. (yes that means i spent about 200 hours in AB)

Note the AB BG weekend only rewards slightly more (6% now as opposed to 33% before) increased reputation, so don't wait for them to power grind rep.

AV:
Easysauce. Do this when you're sick of sitting in AB.

Good Luck!

Comment by yhtomitus

Blizz ought to revamp these alliance forces reputation achevements especialy the silverwing sentinels/warsong outriders as the main way to get reputation with them is for someone to capture a flag as there are few quests. This rewards 35 reputation (45 on the bg holiday) per flag capped by your team with a maximum of 95 (135 for the holiday) for three captures. This means to reach exalted status you will have to win 442 battles provided you win by capturing all three flags, and we all know that alliance suck at PvP. Plus there is almost no reason to do this besides 'The Justicar' title.
There should be more ways of getting rep e.g both repeatable quests and normal quests and perhaps getting honourable kills which reward repuatation and more rewards such as a separate title 'Sentinel' and more items.

Comment by 294856

Ok, I'm running for the Justicar as well, and I'm exalted with two out of the three. What remains is Silverwing Sentinels. I'm 5348/21000 and not on farm. I run as a Holy/Disc Priest (with a very unorthodox spec). I'm literally the flag-runner everytime, and I find that I don't give a damn about winning or losing. I only care about flag-caps. But I have a few tips for those who need to farm Warsong en route to Justicar.

Living Action Potion is quite useful, but honesty, judicious application of Free Action Potion is vastly superior. If you get ambushed by a Rogue, trinket and enjoy immunity with the latter for 30 seconds. Also, let me tell you, when running with the flag, just tear through the opposing faction after you pop one of the Free Action Potions. 90% of all players will try first to impair your movement. Frostbolts, ground freezes, desecration, etc., etc., etc. You will slide through all of it.

The next tips are for Priests. Farming WSG for the Justicar can be brutal, especially as a healer. Shadow and Disc are amazing (at times, respectively), but I've found a spec that's insanely potent. Here is mine.

Body and Soul: This talent is literally the most important one. When the timer on the start expires, cast Renew immediately and when the global cooldown expires cast PW:Sheild. Make sure auto-run is on and you will take off ahead of the crowd. Get outside the gateway and mount up. This places you ahead of everyone else, since as a Priest with the spec I'm giving you, you are ideal for carrying the flag. Ride up to the Horde camp (or Alliance, but I play a Human, so my perspective is Alliance) on the right hand side, up around to the upper right entrance. Ride into the entrance and let the game dismount you. As soon as it does, pop PW:Shield again. This speeds you to the flag and almost guarantees you get it.

Now the next part has several variations to it. Depending on if the flag is guarded (and 80% of the time, especially at the beginning, it's not), there are two strategies to use. If unguarded, grab the flag and head down the tunnel. If no one is accompanying you, grab the Speed Boost, if there are escorts with you, leave it alone. Do NOT get ahead of escorts, that's a mistake. If the flag is guarded, then you'll likely need to use a Free Action Potion to get out of the room with the flag. This is so much fun. Hunters, Warriors, Mages and the rest are almost powerless to stop you. Fears, Cyclones and Sheep still work, though, but 75% of the time it's warriors trying to stun you or mages trying to freeze you. The potion is godly.

Head for your flagroom across the battlefield. When you encounter the opposition, pop a Free Action Potion immediately (unless you had to use it in the flagroom, but we'll ignore that scenario here--we'll assume it's not on CD). Make sure Renew and Prayer of Mending are up, and get ready to Dispel, PW:Shield and Abolish Disease with a fury. Body and Soul augments both Abolish Disease and PW:Shield nicely, and for the love of God, you must invest in the Glyph of Dispel. This, along with Holy Nova (improved with Glyph of Holy Nova) really makes the run a lot easier.

The best thing about the spec I've laid out is the unpredictability of it. Few expect a Priest on the battlefield to have a speed boost or to be able to cleanse poisons. And no one expects them to be immune to stuns and snares. Use that surprise, along with the instant cast spells listed above, and you will proc Surge of Light with astonishing regularity. The crits from the Glyph of Dispel are the usual suspects for Surge of Light, but the best and almost guaranteed way to proc is to use Holy Nova as often as possible. It crits for 3.5 to 4K heals, is instant, and if you are close to your group, can hit five at once (it also does mediocre damage to those all around you, which is better than none). And remember, Surge of Light is beastly good.

Depending on preference, Glyph of PW:Shield or Glyph of Inner Fire are the only two acceptable flag-runner glyphs to fill the last spot. The Shield one gives you another way to proc Surge of Light, whereas the Inner Fire one provides more protection from physical attacks. Either is fine.

Pros and Cons:
Speed on demand every 13 seconds (with PVP set bonus in effect)

Snare and Movement Speed Impairment immunity 30 seconds of every 2 minutes

Ability to cleanse poisons on yourself

Blessed Resilience, Focused Will, Reflective Shield, Spirit of Redemption, Spiritual Healing and Spell Warding

Big Con: This spec has NO MANA REGEN whatsoever. When you're out of mana, you're out of mana.

Happy farming! I hope this helps some Priests!

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The Justicar

Raise your reputation values in Warsong Gulch, Arathi Basin and Alterac Valley to Exalted.

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	Silverwing Sentinel (1)
	Hero of the Stormpike Guard (1)

	Knight of Arathor (1)

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You shall be granted the title "Justicar"

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